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re: The expanded 12-team College Football Playoff is here — and it already has problems.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:36 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:36 pm to Bunk Moreland
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While considering realignment, there would have been seven first-round, conference-vs.-conference rematches over the 10 years of the CFP
so 7 of 40 games would have been rematches? who cares?
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:38 pm to Scruffy
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I’m looking forward to a Michigan Ohio State game, followed by a Michigan Ohio State Big Ten Championship, followed by a Michigan Ohio State first round.
that would be impossible as one would be a conference champion and get a bye
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:44 pm to DBG
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Who cares about the importance of the regular season. Why are people worried about this, it’s not going to be an issue. Y’all going to suddenly care less about beating LSU, Auburn, and Tennessee? Just give us a serious way to determine a champion for once in this stupid sports history.
For 120 years, most true college football fans cared primarily about the regular season - beating traditional rivals was the primary goal along with winning as many games as possible with the reward being “going to a good bowl game”. In 1982 grocery stores in Baton Rouge sold out of oranges when the Tigers played FSU in November with the winner likely to get an invitation to the Orange Bowl. The scene was as exciting a game as ever happened in Tiger Stadium and there were zero thoughts of a “National Championship”.
And yes, you often had times where the Big 8 champion was in the orange bowl,
the SEC Champ in the sugar, the SWC in the cotton and the Big 10/Pac 10
Champs in the Rose, often meaning that 1-2-3 were in different bowls. And so they “decided”
who the champ was based on a popularity contest.
Now, we’ve gone to the other extreme. They are so worried with forcing a championship tournament on to a sport that, with 130 plus teams isn’t really fit for it, that they have essentially ruined what has made the sport great. The BCS was actually “ok” until they let politics play a role in it with the fiasco in 2011.
The four team playoff wasn’t bad - although again they turned out flawed events in 2014, 2017 and 2023 which in reality were no more “valid” than people simply voting would have been.
This 12 team football playoff will probably make a lot of money and get a lot of excitement from “sports fans”, but it does little for true college football fans.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:47 pm to JimTiger72
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Championships aren’t won in September or October
the season starts in September.
you should have to win those games too.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:48 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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They were just tired of undefeated teams being locked out, split titles, and mulligans.
so we create an entire bracket of mulligans?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:55 pm to Basura Blanco
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The best thing about a 12 team playoff is that we are now arguing about who gets a bye instead of who gets in.
read the whole article.
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But perhaps the most pressing issue sure to arise with the new 12-team bracket is a lowly ranked G5 champion’s inclusion pushing out a power league team ranked in the top 12. Only three times in the last 10 years would the top 12 ranked teams have all made the field.
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In 2022, Tulane, ranked No. 16, would have advanced into the playoff as the Group of Five’s highest-ranked champion. The 12-seeded Green Wave would have pushed out 12th-ranked Washington. In 2019, No. 15 Memphis, the G5’s highest-ranked champion, would have gotten a bid over Notre Dame, Penn State and Utah.
In 2015, Navy would have earned the G5 bid into the field as the No. 21st-ranked team in the country. Last year, No. 23-ranked Liberty would have gotten in (Oregon beat that team 45-6 in the Fiesta Bowl, by the way.)
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The selection committee will be faced with the real possibility that no G5 team — even its best champion — is ranked. The question emerged during the bracket exercise, and Hancock confirmed that the protocol is for the committee to choose the best G5 champion among the five league winners — a G5 ranking of sorts.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:07 pm to Bunk Moreland
The idea of 12 teams is an improvement but in practice it’s going to be a complete mess with more than half a dozen teams having the same resume vying for the final spots. Should’ve gone to 6 or 8 with qualifiers.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:20 pm to Bunk Moreland
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“A lot of rematches,” SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said.
No shite? There are going to be a bunch of rematches when the SEC and Big 10 are demanding if they don't always get 3-4 reps in the playoff they'd pack up and form their own super league? Damn, G thanks for looking out!
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:31 pm to RollTide1987
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Then:
"The regular season will STILL matter! You guys are just making a mountain out of a molehill."
You still want the higher seed to have the home playoff game no? So it kinda matters
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:43 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Inside the College Football Playoff meeting room, at a resort hotel in the posh community of Las Colinas
Nope. I would not be classifying Las Colinas as a posh community.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:51 pm to StrongOffer
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every game in the regular season used to be life or death
Even fairly casual fans can correctly predict the outcome of 97% of all CFB games. You have a couple per week that are true toss ups that are also involving teams with a legit shot at the playoff.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:58 pm to Bunk Moreland
People calling the shots in CFB right now are absolutely hot garbage.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:15 pm to StrongOffer
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College football was better when every game mattered and the 1 team that made it through the gauntlet got to play the best team outside the SEC.
Every game mattered until you lost your first game, and then zero games mattered
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:32 pm to Epic Cajun
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Every game mattered until you lost your first game, and then zero games mattered
Unless you were a blue blood, then we had to change the narrative for what counted that particular season.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:41 pm to JimTiger72
quote:Yeah, just what we all wanted college football to be.
Yeah, that’s fine. Similar to NFL.
frick you retards.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:58 pm to Bunk Moreland
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he expanded 12-team College Football Playoff is here — and it already has problems.
most of us already knew this when they decided on having a 12 team playoff in "league" where most of the talent is stockpiled into 15 or so teams.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:29 pm to Bunk Moreland
They should really have the first two playoff rounds played at the home stadium of the higher seeded team. That would increase the value (or at least lessen the devaluation) of the regular season and winning your conference. It would also mean fuller stadiums with a more authentic college experience.
I like giving the top four conference champs a bye and second round home field advantage. That puts emphasis on winning the conference and gives the fans of those teams a memorable experience. An important feature of that is also keeping the sport a national sport instead of just regional SEC and Big 10.
If your rconference second or third runner up is really better? They should have A) won their conference or B) beat the team who won theirs on the road. The third round of the playoffs and championship game should be neutral site New Year's bowl games. At that point you want the fairness of relatively neutral sites.
I like giving the top four conference champs a bye and second round home field advantage. That puts emphasis on winning the conference and gives the fans of those teams a memorable experience. An important feature of that is also keeping the sport a national sport instead of just regional SEC and Big 10.
If your rconference second or third runner up is really better? They should have A) won their conference or B) beat the team who won theirs on the road. The third round of the playoffs and championship game should be neutral site New Year's bowl games. At that point you want the fairness of relatively neutral sites.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:40 pm to molsusports
quote:depends on the cost of the tickets...if it is $300 per ticket, it will be a tough sell for a fan to possibly do that two weeks in a row...
It would also mean fuller stadiums with a more authentic college experience.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:50 pm to Nutriaitch
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so we create an entire bracket of mulligans?
Those were the biggest complaints. People won't like mulligans going forward either.
Better solution would have been a decision tree that gives undefeated mid majors a chance to put up or shut up, and auto bids for major conferences.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:55 pm to Chicken
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It would also mean fuller stadiums with a more authentic college experience.
depends on the cost of the tickets...if it is $300 per ticket, it will be a tough sell for a fan to possibly do that two weeks in a row...
Mostly disagree
Firstly because 80% of the crowd should be tickets sold to the home team (first dibs for season ticket holders). The home team in the first round (assuming they win) becomes a road team in round two.
Round three and four are more expensive for fans because most fans are facing costs for traveling, hotels, tickets etc. Those games are going to have to rely on the prestige of the bowl, the playoff, or the involved teams to fill stadiums.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 4:57 pm
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