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re: T or F: Kobe Bryant was NOT a Top 10 All-Time NBA Player
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:33 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:33 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Basketball is a team game, numbnuts
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:42 pm to fitz
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Massive favorite wins. Lebron balls out. Winning strategy was to let Lebron ball out.
Yes! How hard is this to understand? Russell and the Celts created a dynasty of this against Wilt in the 60s
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:43 pm to ThePTExperience1969
What book did you read that in?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 12:14 am to Rep520
Lol yea they do and yea they did. Scoring points or not scoring points you burnout from pace which was the point. Eventually the Cavs would hit the wall and The Warriors wouldn’t. You people who don’t understand sports can’t separate stats from winning and it’s obvious. If you understood the dynamics and history of that matchup you’d see it was the perfect trap for someone like LeBron who doesn’t accept coaching and doesn’t mind losing as long as he gets his blue check worship. It happened and it worked to near perfection regardless if you understood it or not.
The facts are the facts
-Cleveland’s scoring dropped by an average of 14 points from 1st to 4th quarters and not once was 4th quarter scoring higher than the 1st. The closest was game 5 (27points) still 3 points lower than their lowest 1st quarter.
- Cleveland scored 30 or more in every 1st quarter yet scored fewer than 20 twice with a high of 27, the only time they scored over 25 in any 4th quarter of the series
- The Cavs were outscored in every 4th quarter except the loss (22-20). And by a lot in terms of championship series standards. +5 per win on average
- Cleveland scored more in every first half of the series scoring over 60 in 4 of 5 games with a 1st half low of 52. They were under 50 twice in second halves and only reached 60 during the last game of the series.
You have no argument
The facts are the facts
-Cleveland’s scoring dropped by an average of 14 points from 1st to 4th quarters and not once was 4th quarter scoring higher than the 1st. The closest was game 5 (27points) still 3 points lower than their lowest 1st quarter.
- Cleveland scored 30 or more in every 1st quarter yet scored fewer than 20 twice with a high of 27, the only time they scored over 25 in any 4th quarter of the series
- The Cavs were outscored in every 4th quarter except the loss (22-20). And by a lot in terms of championship series standards. +5 per win on average
- Cleveland scored more in every first half of the series scoring over 60 in 4 of 5 games with a 1st half low of 52. They were under 50 twice in second halves and only reached 60 during the last game of the series.
You have no argument
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 12:56 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:29 am to PhillyFan1994
Lmao
False
False
Posted on 4/9/20 at 1:56 am to TOKEN
True. 12 to 15, sure. 11? I can buy it.
10. No.
10. No.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 6:08 am to PhillyFan1994
I cannot imagine putting together a starting lineup of NBA hall of famers where Kobe does not make it better somehow.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 6:15 am to Tridentds
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I cannot imagine putting together a starting lineup of NBA hall of famers where Kobe does not make it better somehow.
Magic/Curry
MJ
LeBron
Duncan
Kareem
Who does Kobe replace here?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 6:21 am to Madking
quote:GS's scoring dropped by an average of 10 points from 1st to 4th quarters and not once was 4th quarter scoring higher than the 1st.
-Cleveland’s scoring dropped by an average of 14 points from 1st to 4th quarters and not once was 4th quarter scoring higher than the 1st. The closest was game 5 (27points) still 3 points lower than their lowest 1st quarter.
quote:GS scored more in every first half of the series scoring over 60 in 5 of 5 games with a 1st half low of 60. They were under 55 three times in second halves and only reached 60 once.
- Cleveland scored more in every first half of the series scoring over 60 in 4 of 5 games with a 1st half low of 52. They were under 50 twice in second halves and only reached 60 during the last game of the series.
What does that tell you about the Cavs' defensive strategy?
Fun fact:
Cavs outscored GS in the second half in 3 of 5 games.
GS outscored Cavs in the first half in 4 of 5 games.
Tell me what it means!
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 6:27 am
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:14 am to PhillyFan1994
False
Top 10 yes
Top 5 no
Now if we limit it to players since 1990 then yes top 5.
Top 10 yes
Top 5 no
Now if we limit it to players since 1990 then yes top 5.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:51 am to PhillyFan1994
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:23 am to Madking
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It happened and it worked to near perfection regardless if you understood it or not.
Take a look at fitz's post, which I'll give you pertinent details from.
Golden State's 4th quarter scoring fell off just as much.
The Cavs outscored GS in 3 of 5 second halves. GS outscored the Cavs in 4 of 5 first halves.
You're only quoting Cavs stats to avoid that GS fell off too and the Cavs were generally better in the 2nd half.
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Scoring points or not scoring points you burnout from pace
This is the easiest part of your post to prove false. You hypothesize GS played a higher pace vs Cleveland as a strategy to burn the Cavs out.
Warriors regular season pace: 99.8 possessions per game.
Warriors pace vs Cleveland: 100.2 possessions per game.
That extra 0.4 possession must have been a doozy to trigger this fatigue.
It's fairly easy to prove GS didn't accelerate their pace. They played an identical pace as in the season. So, either they didn't use the strategy you think they did, or they failed at increasing their pace.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:32 am to Rep520
Golden state knew they could coast through That series. The finals that year was the WCF, everyone knew it. golden state beat Cleveland so easily they didn’t even really have to try. That shows up in lebrons numbers for sure. Their effort on d was lackadaisical to say the least. But cAn you blame them? When you up double digits the whole game you not really gonna bring that intensity on D.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:41 am to Boomshockalocka
OUR POINT ALL ALONG, typical rope-a-dope, Russell over Wilt strategy. Tried and true proven over the generations across multiple sports.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:51 am to Boomshockalocka
Ah, so we've changed from GS playing a higher pace to GS not really trying on D now?
Cool.
Cool.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:52 am to Rep520
"Tire him out" strategy has mysteriously gone missing.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:55 am to Rep520
B never said nothing about pace. You could watch the games and see that golden state never really felt a threat. They knew they could play their C game and win that series with ease. Lebron was such a terrible leader that year that d wade didn’t even wanna be there. And they trade half the team away. No chance they were gonna make GOAT sweat.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:15 am to Boomshockalocka
Madking was arguing the Warriors used higher pace to tire the Cavs out for the last two pages.
You're also not on the right season if you're arguing DWade.
You're also not on the right season if you're arguing DWade.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:33 am to PhillyFan1994
You added too many 0's. It would also be False.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:55 am to ThePTExperience1969
You don't know shite.
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