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re: Spurs coach Gregg Popovich calls U.S. 'embarrassment to the world,' talks white privilege
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:30 pm to slackster
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:30 pm to slackster
quote:well popovich's dumbass sure does and that's what this is all about
I don't think shel is arguing that white privilege is due to racism. I agree with you, it's biological. It's nature, but that doesn't mean it's made up either.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:31 pm to SabiDojo
It was sarcasm, but nobody has really spelled it out. We are stupid for not acknowledging the problem. We are stupid for not understanding we have privilege. With that said, nobody ever says what we can do about it.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:31 pm to TexasTiger08
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So what is the solution to this mess?
Clearly the Spurs should be forced to fire Popovich and hire Derek Fisher.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:31 pm to Lester Earl
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You're right, I did give him shite. Because I felt like he was posturing for this message board, which was rather obvious & chicken shite. And he has a white wife and inlaws he has to please so I don't think he is a great representative of how the majority of black people feel. I never called him an Uncle Tom and that is what the question above me asked.
Out of anyone in this conversation you are doing the most generalizing and posturing due to race. The dude is fricking black and hasn't been married his entire life, but now he can't have his own thoughts because he has to please his white wife with his thoughts on a message board. Saying he can't think for himself because he has to please the white person he is married to is so insulting to him it's hard to even imagine.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:31 pm to Lester Earl
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You're right, I did give him shite. Because I felt like he was posturing for this message board, which was rather obvious & chicken shite. And he has a white wife and inlaws he has to please so I don't think he is a great representative of how the majority of black people feel. I never called him an Uncle Tom and that is what the question above me asked
Fair enough.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:32 pm to lsupride87
quote:Even if there is. Say, because of more white people in position to hire employees as shel mentioned, I don't think it's to such a degree that warrants this cluster frick of anger that we see(from both sides).
At this point, I do not see the "success" advantage of the white kid
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:32 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Got if. So you didn't call him an Uncle Tom. What you did was say he was posturing and acting a certain way to gain the approval of a majority white message board. Totally different
You're right, I did give him shite. Because I felt like he was posturing for this message board, which was rather obvious & chicken shite. And he has a white wife and inlaws he has to please so I don't think he is a great representative of how the majority of black people feel. I never called him an Uncle Tom and that is what the question above me asked.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:32 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:Yes, this is correct. I didn't see we should just magically give more black folks hiring positions, so don't twist my words, but what you said is 100% correct.
so if this is your stance them by your own logic if we get more bkack folks doing the hiring more black folks will have jobs
quote:Everyone has inherent biases. Everyone.
Are you saying black people are racist?
quote:if population numbers for blacks/white were flopped, of course there would be black privilege.
Would there then be black privelage?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:32 pm to ReauxlTide222
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You think being white trumps a combination of being healthy, wealthy, and attractive? That's absurd
Where do you get that from?
I don't think white trumps black, for one.
But I also know rich black good looking people are not immune to social injustices. Do you really believe they aren't?
I don't know where the whole white trumps black thing comes in at. I never said that
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:33 pm to lsupride87
quote:As I said, ignoring or denying it actually hurts.
I agree. But saying this doesn't help anything
So, saying/acknowledging it does have value, so it kinda does help.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:34 pm to lsupride87
Same education level, different pay. We should really be pissed at Asians, but as I said earlier, they're a bit different, and skewed to degree holders only.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:34 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:Because that is literally the issue?
and therefore if the only thing that makes whi5e privelage an actual issue is there being a majority of white people in a country then how can it be a real issue?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:35 pm to shel311
So if every white person accepted their advantages tomorrow, what changes
Honest question
Honest question
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:35 pm to shel311
Fair enough. I agree everyone has their inherent biases. We can't change that. It's nature but that also means black people shouldn't get up in arms about white privelage or call it racism when it is not. Although the majority of the time the more qualified individual will get the position regardless of race. I believe white privelage as you call it accounts for very few job opportunities on its own
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:36 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Ooooh...THAT is a bad look.
And he has a white wife and inlaws he has to please so I don't think he is a great representative of how the majority of black people feel.
Yikes
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:36 pm to slackster
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Same education level, different pay. We should really be pissed at Asians, but as I said earlier, they're a bit different, and skewed to degree holders only.
To be fair those don't break down degrees. I had hardly no black kids in my accounting undergrad or graduate classes. Same for engineering and those are two higher earning degrees. I'm not trying to poo on your overall point, but that data isn't really definitive.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:36 pm to lsupride87
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So if every white person accepted their advantages tomorrow, what changes
Nothing really except people will stop lying to themselves maybe and stop saying they are not ever racists.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:36 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
That was just a small portion of the thread. I don't take back what I said and yes I think it's accurate to say that he was indeed saying those things because of his relationship and because he will say anything tine liked on this here message board.
The thing that sparked it was him trying to speak and represent all black people. Which is wrong. And especially the way he sensationalized for his buddies on this board. frick that guy
The thing that sparked it was him trying to speak and represent all black people. Which is wrong. And especially the way he sensationalized for his buddies on this board. frick that guy
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:36 pm to Bench McElroy
Generational responsibility is not white privilege.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:37 pm to slackster
I like the effort slackster. But until you breakdown the degrees that data is flawed
And average graduation gpa as well
And average graduation gpa as well
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 1:39 pm
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