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re: Spurs coach Gregg Popovich calls U.S. 'embarrassment to the world,' talks white privilege

Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:30 pm to
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I don't think shel is arguing that white privilege is due to racism. I agree with you, it's biological. It's nature, but that doesn't mean it's made up either.

well popovich's dumbass sure does and that's what this is all about
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25989 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:31 pm to
It was sarcasm, but nobody has really spelled it out. We are stupid for not acknowledging the problem. We are stupid for not understanding we have privilege. With that said, nobody ever says what we can do about it.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
25532 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:31 pm to
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So what is the solution to this mess?


Clearly the Spurs should be forced to fire Popovich and hire Derek Fisher.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:31 pm to
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You're right, I did give him shite. Because I felt like he was posturing for this message board, which was rather obvious & chicken shite. And he has a white wife and inlaws he has to please so I don't think he is a great representative of how the majority of black people feel. I never called him an Uncle Tom and that is what the question above me asked.


Out of anyone in this conversation you are doing the most generalizing and posturing due to race. The dude is fricking black and hasn't been married his entire life, but now he can't have his own thoughts because he has to please his white wife with his thoughts on a message board. Saying he can't think for himself because he has to please the white person he is married to is so insulting to him it's hard to even imagine.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84204 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:31 pm to
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You're right, I did give him shite. Because I felt like he was posturing for this message board, which was rather obvious & chicken shite. And he has a white wife and inlaws he has to please so I don't think he is a great representative of how the majority of black people feel. I never called him an Uncle Tom and that is what the question above me asked


Fair enough.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
84559 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:32 pm to
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At this point, I do not see the "success" advantage of the white kid
Even if there is. Say, because of more white people in position to hire employees as shel mentioned, I don't think it's to such a degree that warrants this cluster frick of anger that we see(from both sides).
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99554 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:32 pm to
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You're right, I did give him shite. Because I felt like he was posturing for this message board, which was rather obvious & chicken shite. And he has a white wife and inlaws he has to please so I don't think he is a great representative of how the majority of black people feel. I never called him an Uncle Tom and that is what the question above me asked.


Got if. So you didn't call him an Uncle Tom. What you did was say he was posturing and acting a certain way to gain the approval of a majority white message board. Totally different
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111690 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:32 pm to
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so if this is your stance them by your own logic if we get more bkack folks doing the hiring more black folks will have jobs
Yes, this is correct. I didn't see we should just magically give more black folks hiring positions, so don't twist my words, but what you said is 100% correct.

quote:

Are you saying black people are racist?
Everyone has inherent biases. Everyone.

quote:

Would there then be black privelage?
if population numbers for blacks/white were flopped, of course there would be black privilege.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
280858 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:32 pm to
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You think being white trumps a combination of being healthy, wealthy, and attractive? That's absurd


Where do you get that from?

I don't think white trumps black, for one.

But I also know rich black good looking people are not immune to social injustices. Do you really believe they aren't?


I don't know where the whole white trumps black thing comes in at. I never said that
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111690 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:33 pm to
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I agree. But saying this doesn't help anything

As I said, ignoring or denying it actually hurts.

So, saying/acknowledging it does have value, so it kinda does help.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
86918 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:34 pm to


Same education level, different pay. We should really be pissed at Asians, but as I said earlier, they're a bit different, and skewed to degree holders only.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111690 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:34 pm to
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and therefore if the only thing that makes whi5e privelage an actual issue is there being a majority of white people in a country then how can it be a real issue?
Because that is literally the issue?

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99554 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:35 pm to
So if every white person accepted their advantages tomorrow, what changes

Honest question
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16447 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:35 pm to
Fair enough. I agree everyone has their inherent biases. We can't change that. It's nature but that also means black people shouldn't get up in arms about white privelage or call it racism when it is not. Although the majority of the time the more qualified individual will get the position regardless of race. I believe white privelage as you call it accounts for very few job opportunities on its own
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111690 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:36 pm to
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And he has a white wife and inlaws he has to please so I don't think he is a great representative of how the majority of black people feel.
Ooooh...THAT is a bad look.


Yikes
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Same education level, different pay. We should really be pissed at Asians, but as I said earlier, they're a bit different, and skewed to degree holders only.


To be fair those don't break down degrees. I had hardly no black kids in my accounting undergrad or graduate classes. Same for engineering and those are two higher earning degrees. I'm not trying to poo on your overall point, but that data isn't really definitive.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140002 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:36 pm to
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So if every white person accepted their advantages tomorrow, what changes


Nothing really except people will stop lying to themselves maybe and stop saying they are not ever racists.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
280858 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:36 pm to
That was just a small portion of the thread. I don't take back what I said and yes I think it's accurate to say that he was indeed saying those things because of his relationship and because he will say anything tine liked on this here message board.

The thing that sparked it was him trying to speak and represent all black people. Which is wrong. And especially the way he sensationalized for his buddies on this board. frick that guy
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12053 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:36 pm to
Generational responsibility is not white privilege.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99554 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:37 pm to
I like the effort slackster. But until you breakdown the degrees that data is flawed

And average graduation gpa as well
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 1:39 pm
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