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re: Spurs coach Gregg Popovich calls U.S. 'embarrassment to the world,' talks white privilege
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:52 pm to ScoopAndScore
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:52 pm to ScoopAndScore
quote:shel, this is my bigger point. Do I agree white people have advantages? Yes
he problem is that the left wants to blur the things that actually makes someone achieve. Well actually they want to remove the former from the discussion and just claim "privilege" to be solely based on being white. Which of course isn't something we control.
Liberalism 101. Don't focus on what we can actually control. Blame failure on something or someone else.
However I think it is being used as a false flag by politicians for personal gain, and as a crutch by others
I would rather focus our efforts on things that will truly help
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Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:54 pm to lsupride87
quote:
. Do I agree white people have advantages? Yes
Are advantages earned?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:55 pm to ScoopAndScore
Some are, some aren't
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:56 pm to lsupride87
quote:I think the problem is, as a whole(or maybe just the vocal majority) only focuses on the ones you speak of, which leave the black people who truly want unity and justice and all that good stuff...their voices go unheard.
shel, this is my bigger point. Do I agree white people have advantages? Yes
However I think it is being used as a false flag by politicians for personal gain, and as a crutch by others
I would rather focus our efforts on things that will truly help
The kneeling thing is a perfect example. We ignore what they want to fight for and only focus on the kneeling. And I think the kneeling is the wrong way to go about it as well, so i'm not innocent there, but again it just deflects from what they're actually trying to to and the point they're trying to get across.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:56 pm to slackster
quote:Come on, man.
It took a bunch of white dudes 20 pages to acknowledge white privilege exists to some degree, so you can see how/why it would be a roadblock for any true racial discussions.
It'd be irresponsible for us to agree/acknowledge what's being laid out without first figuring out exactly what both sides mean by white privilege.
It took 20 pages for everyone to sift through everything in order to come to some degree of agreement. It took 20 pages for everyone to understand each other better.
You saying it took 20 pages for a bunch of white dudes to admit they have white privilege is the EXACT reason why us white dudes didn't say, "frick yeah we have that shite" on page 1.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:56 pm to slackster
quote:
t took a bunch of white dudes 20 pages to acknowledge white privilege exists to some degree, so you can see how/why it would be a roadblock for any true racial discussions
Ok, so the road block is out of the way.
Could someone please tell me what can be done about this? is it not just a cultural phenomenon? A zero sum game?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:57 pm to lsupride87
Oddly enough, by acknowledging white privilege, I am suggesting that I, indeed, am higher up on the totem pole of life than blacks. I thought this is what we wanted to avoid. Are people with white privilege supposed to be chomping at the bits to relinquish it? This world has constantly had people fighting for some supremacy, whether it is political, religious, militaristic, etc. Now we are being told that posturing is wrong?
My privilege acknowledgement doesn't make the inner-cities safer. It doesn't create better schools in poverty stricken areas. It also doesn't make the family life better when daddy gets busted for selling drugs.
My privilege acknowledgement doesn't make the inner-cities safer. It doesn't create better schools in poverty stricken areas. It also doesn't make the family life better when daddy gets busted for selling drugs.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:58 pm to shel311
quote:
We ignore what they want to fight for and only focus on the kneeling.
I ignore the kneeling because almost all examples of "police brutality" are bullshite.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:58 pm to shel311
quote:I don't think that's true at all. I think most white people know what it's about, but recognize that it's idiotic. If they were being massacred in the streets by police, I doubt their kneeling would be a big issue.
We ignore what they want to fight for and only focus on the kneeling.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 1:58 pm to TexasTiger08
quote:
thought this is what we wanted to avoid. Are people with white privilege supposed to be chomping at the bits to relinquish it? This world has constantly had people fighting for some supremacy, whether it is political, religious, militaristic, etc. Now we are being told that posturing is wrong?
Wow wow wow wow wow
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:02 pm to shel311
quote:
The kneeling thing is a perfect example. We ignore what they want to fight for and only focus on the kneeling. And I think the kneeling is the wrong way to go about it as well, so i'm not innocent there, but again it just deflects from what they're actually trying to to and the point they're trying to get across.
You ever think it may be there fault for picking a controversial way to protest not the people that disagree with them kneeling. And I'm in the same boat as you. I don't agree with it, but if their bosses say they can do it then they can do it. If the owners start losing money from it, though, they gave to be prepared to be cut and can't cry racism.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:03 pm to TexasTiger08
quote:
Oddly enough, by acknowledging white privilege, I am suggesting that I, indeed, am higher up on the totem pole of life than blacks.
You uncovered what's called the rub. Its like when some claim that voter ID laws are racist because minorities aren't as capable as whites to go out and get a freakin ID. I mean how completely racist is that broad assumption about minorities. Blacks should be pissed off at that assessment of them.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:06 pm to ScoopAndScore
quote:
You uncovered what's called the rub. Its like when some claim that voter ID laws are racist because minorities aren't as capable as whites to go out and get a freakin ID. I mean how completely racist is that broad assumption about minorities. Blacks should be pissed off at that assessment of them.
Dems are scapegoating blacks to pander illegal immigrant votes and black people are ok with it. I agree with you.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:07 pm to Lester Earl
Lester, I'm not saying it's right to want to be on top at the expense of others...but do you see the Trumps, Bill Gates, and Paul Allens of the country ready to give up so much of their assets that they lose 100% control of their business and industries?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:48 pm to Lester Earl
I agree we have a police brutality problem in this country.
I'd agree some of our citizens feel that they are profiled and harassed unnecessarily. I don't have the facts on these incidents.
Not sure how to feel on the police killings. Most victims I've heard about are found to be felons and/or disobeying lawful orders at the time of the shootings.
The media isn't helping matters by posting clean cut pictures of the Sterlings and Martins of the world and not letting us in on the true facts. That's just as divisive as what the President seems to be doing.
Don't know how to fix it.
I'd agree some of our citizens feel that they are profiled and harassed unnecessarily. I don't have the facts on these incidents.
Not sure how to feel on the police killings. Most victims I've heard about are found to be felons and/or disobeying lawful orders at the time of the shootings.
The media isn't helping matters by posting clean cut pictures of the Sterlings and Martins of the world and not letting us in on the true facts. That's just as divisive as what the President seems to be doing.
Don't know how to fix it.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:54 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
You saying it took 20 pages for a bunch of white dudes to admit they have white privilege is the EXACT reason why us white dudes didn't say, "frick yeah we have that shite" on page 1.
, how is this...quote:
It took 20 pages for everyone to sift through everything in order to come to some degree of agreement. It took 20 pages for everyone to understand each other better.
any different than what I said?
quote:
It took a bunch of white dudes 20 pages to acknowledge white privilege exists to some degree
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:56 pm to OceanMan
quote:
Could someone please tell me what can be done about this? is it not just a cultural phenomenon? A zero sum game?
Idk. I'm not going to pretend to even ask the right questions either. I'm not the one with a grievance.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:02 pm to shel311
quote:
The kneeling thing is a perfect example. We ignore what they want to fight for and only focus on the kneeling. And I think the kneeling is the wrong way to go about it as well, so i'm not innocent there, but again it just deflects from what they're actually trying to to and the point they're trying to get across
Nah, the kneeling is a terrible example. If you're protesting for some cause, it's not my fault that your protest is so far removed from the cause that it distorts the message. A protest that began on shaky grounds of police brutality has turned into a discussion of whether kneeling during the anthem dishonors veterans and shits on America. That's not our fault, that's on Kaepernick et al.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:24 pm to Bench McElroy
"Our country is an embarrassment to the world."
Think about that. With all the heinous acts that go on in the Middle East, North Korea, Russia, and so on, the US is the embarrassment.
Interesting position considering this cock face gets paid $6 million to coach basketball.
Think about that. With all the heinous acts that go on in the Middle East, North Korea, Russia, and so on, the US is the embarrassment.
Interesting position considering this cock face gets paid $6 million to coach basketball.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:44 pm to BayouBengals03
I boycotted the Spurs years ago
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