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re: Sources: Big Ten coaches urge action against UM. Update: Connor Stalions has been fired
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:24 am to More beer please
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:24 am to More beer please
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Insane Connor Stalions video from the 2022 Ohio State game.
Stalions tells DC Jesse Minter "run right" on 2nd and 9 for OSU.
Michigan immediately crashes both safeties, leaves the middle of the field wide open, and the Buckeyes run offset to the middle-right
LINK
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:28 am to RLDSC FAN
Weird that the consensus here is just whatever the other teams can alter their strategies because one team is cheating. The whole is getting punished for the one, who gets no punishment. Donut scene in FMJ.
I do know that if this was Bama, the rest of the sec would ge calling for their heads
I do know that if this was Bama, the rest of the sec would ge calling for their heads
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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These comparisons are idiotic.
it would be idiotic to think teams have a set of "second-half signals" they use all the time, would beat the point of changing signals. wth is wrong with some of you people. they should be punished for breaking the rules, but this isn't as big a deal as some of you are making it out to be.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 11:42 am
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:33 am to deathvalleyfreak43
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If Ed Orgeron can do it mid game then I’m confident anyone can.
Wait, do you think this is simple as a pitcher and catcher changing signs from "one finger fastball, two finger curve, three fingers changeup"?
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:34 am to White Flash
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it would idiotic to think teams have a set of "second-half signals" they use all the time, would beat the point of changing signals.
Wait...you think they just go into the locker room and cook something up?

quote:
wth is wrong with some of you people. they should be punished for breaking the rules, but this isn't as big a deal as some of you are making it out to be.
You've never played, have you?
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:36 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Insane Connor Stalions video from the 2022 Ohio State game.
Stalions tells DC Jesse Minter "run right" on 2nd and 9 for OSU.
Michigan immediately crashes both safeties, leaves the middle of the field wide open, and the Buckeyes run offset to the middle-right
What's the big deal? Everyone knows exactly what plays their opponents are running...
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:39 am to White Flash
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it would idiotic to think teams have a set of "second-half signals" they use all the time, would beat the point of changing signals. wth is wrong with some of you people
if they are charging signs week to week then you run the risk of 18-21 year olds screwing up which could lead to sacks/turnovers/ect. They only have 20 hours a week to gameplan and practice with the players, how much of that time are coaches willing to spend going over the new code for the playbook?
If you think the sign stealing is mostly just in game, then you really should not to change up that often.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:41 am to More beer please
quote:to make the other team have to change their signals is the main reason. can also catch a team a few times with it, but any descent coach adjusts to this in game. it's just part of what goes on during a game. i can see michigan getting some small advantage to cheating the way they were, but stealing signals is part of the game. it's usually more useful if a team get's their signals stolen and doesn't adjust, still have to stop the other team. it isn't a chess match, just has some elements of one.
Then why even try to steal the signs at all?
we would constantly make jibberish hand signals just about every play. none of it meant anything. we'd have 3 or 4 guys making signals and one of em is the actual caller and that rotates.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:42 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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You've never played, have you?
i can definitely tell you haven't.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:43 am to RLDSC FAN
The amount of people downplaying this is insane.
They had an elaborate plan to fly all over the country to steal signals.
If its not a big deal, why did UM spend so much money, time and effort to steal the signals?
They had an elaborate plan to fly all over the country to steal signals.
If its not a big deal, why did UM spend so much money, time and effort to steal the signals?
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:44 am to DisplacedBuckeye
LINK
Include Buckeye fans on tigerdroppongs to this article highlighting disinformation and rush to judgement
Include Buckeye fans on tigerdroppongs to this article highlighting disinformation and rush to judgement
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:44 am to White Flash
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to make the other team have to change their signals is the main reason. can also catch a team a few times with it, but any descent coach adjusts to this in game. it's just part of what goes on during a game. i can see michigan getting some small advantage to cheating the way they were, but stealing signals is part of the game
Ridiculous.
So you think:
1. A program like Ohio State isn't already adjusting in-game.
2. What those assholes did is comparable to stealing signals over the course of a game.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:45 am to El Magnifico
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Include Buckeye fans on tigerdroppongs to this article highlighting disinformation and rush to judgement

...he says as he links fricking "Wolverine Digest."
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:45 am to White Flash
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i can definitely tell
I very much doubt that this statement has ever been true for you.

Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:45 am to El Magnifico
You just linked an article from Woverine Digest. What did you think those frick sticks would be saying? 

Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:47 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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he says as he links fricking "Wolverine Digest."
This is like be copying and pasting posts from MGoBlog and treating them as fact.

Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:50 am to KosmoCramer
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This is like be copying and pasting posts from MGoBlog and treating them as fact.
Wait...so you mean what they did was not only ethical, but they actually had an obligation to their fans to do it?

Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:52 am to RLDSC FAN
This entire thing would be moot if the NCAA allowed one player on each side of the ball to have a radio in the helmet. It’s 2023, not 1923. Make the change.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:54 am to White Flash
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can also catch a team a few times with it, but any descent coach adjusts to this in game.
So then are there no decent coaches in the B10 or CFP? Cause if any "decent" coach can and does adjust in game, then again whats the point of creating this elaborate sign stealing scheme and invest that much time and money?
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:57 am to Oilfieldbiology
I guess my position is this...is this something we actually want to let go and essentially let become legal? Is that what we are favoring...all out cheating? I get it, there will always be some level of coaching trying to gain the upper hand, but this goes WAY beyond that and everybody in the world knows it. This is something the B1G and NCAA needs to come down on hard. Imagine if MLB would have just let what the Astros did just slide? Doing nothing about this opens pandora's box and wouldn't be good for the game. I think that is common sense.
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