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Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:52 am to lsupride87
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Current LIV players results at US open
24th
43rd
49th
55th
56th
The rest missed cut or did not play
Victor Hovland, Tommy Fleetwood, Cam Smith, Tony Finau, Billy Horschel, and some other higher ranked players all missed the cut. Let's not act like only LIV players played bad. one major + the fact that LIV is brand new and seems to be getting better players weekly is some great comparison.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:53 am to deathvalleytiger10
quote:Which is also neutralized by the fact that not every player gets points in every single tourney just for making the cut.
Once that was realized, he moved to "invitational" and "no cut".
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:54 am to iwyLSUiwy
You are correct. The PGA and DP had some players play poorly, but they also had some players play extremely well and even had the winner
The LIV just had players finish poorly
The LIV just had players finish poorly
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:55 am to Dawgsontop34
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Tiger played his events to gear up for the majors. Everything revolves around the majors. He also has the most competitive work ethic of anyone in golf history.
Meh, a lot of times, sure. But he didn't push for the Zozo to move to Japan in October because he was prepping for majors. And he wasn't playing in tournaments like the Dubai classic in February for that reason either.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:56 am to lsupride87
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You are correct. The PGA and DP had some players play poorly, but they also had some players play extremely well and even had the winner
The LIV just had players finish poorly
There's 48 LIV players, there's hundreds of card holding PGA Tour members.
I've told you a dozen times, just say you don't like LIV. That's fine and perfectly reasonable. What is not reasonable is making up retarded arguments like this.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:59 am to lsupride87
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And I’m confident he is done winning
Dudes in his 50s, that’s not quite a flex
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:59 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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You said they were the same thing,
he did?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:59 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I get what you’re saying for sure. Strength of Field matters OWGR wise, and doesn’t generally matter for PGA Tour events.
One thing with OWGR that does kind of stink with no cut events (same thing as the Hero) is that you can play very bad and still get a bunch of points if the SoF is good (that’s not solely a LIV issue). Another issue is overly crediting the winners of events with weak fields. Tony Finau got the same # of points for winning the Puerto Rico open as he did for finishing in Solo 5th at the US Open and more than he did for a T4 for the PGA.
So there are definitely issues with both. But I do agree that OWGR is a much better indicator for the best golfers in the world are.
One thing with OWGR that does kind of stink with no cut events (same thing as the Hero) is that you can play very bad and still get a bunch of points if the SoF is good (that’s not solely a LIV issue). Another issue is overly crediting the winners of events with weak fields. Tony Finau got the same # of points for winning the Puerto Rico open as he did for finishing in Solo 5th at the US Open and more than he did for a T4 for the PGA.
So there are definitely issues with both. But I do agree that OWGR is a much better indicator for the best golfers in the world are.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:00 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I don’t like LIV. I’m also just factually pointing how how the LIV players finished at the US open
It will be something to monitor at all the combined events going forward
It will be something to monitor at all the combined events going forward
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:00 pm to lsufball19
quote:I did not. Another outright LIE by Mingo
he did?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:01 pm to lsupride87
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I’m also just factually pointing how how the LIV players finished at the US open
You are taking an absurd position to make your point which just makes you look like an idiot.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:02 pm to sms151t
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He was responding to me where I mentioned I saw an interview where Norman skewered Monahan but did not make it personal. But he went on some other tangent about it being personal.
Not sure how either side isn't taking it personally. At this stage, it does appear that the PGA has gone out of its way to publicly lambast LIV more so than otherwise.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:02 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
You said the FedEx isn’t an algorithm when trying to boast of your peak math skills. You may want to slow your roll on calling others idiots, friend
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:05 pm to lsupride87
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You said the FedEx isn’t an algorithm when trying to boast of your peak math skills. You may want to slow your roll on calling others idiots, friend
Like i said, if I knew we were going to get into the definitional syntax, I could have chosen my word more carefully, but you know exactly what I meant.
"you get 500 points for a win and you get 500 points for a win" like youre Oprah is not objective.
Just like "we both work for Walmart so we both make $10/hour" isn't objective when ones a cashier and ones the CEO
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:05 pm to lsufball19
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Meh, a lot of times, sure. But he didn't push for the Zozo to move to Japan in October because he was prepping for majors. And he wasn't playing in tournaments like the Dubai classic in February for that reason either.
That’s kind of my point (which I probably didn’t explain very well, but that’s not shocking to anyone
) His hit and giggles tended to be outside of the major season. In major season he had a specific way he was preparing for them. I think almost always he’d play 2 weeks before a major then sit out the week before, but the goal was to be trending for the major. If these exhibitions are surrounding the majors, it’s going to be tough for players to prep the way they’d otherwise plan on being ready for the majors.
Again, I can’t be really mad at them for doing what they think is best in their life. I just think it doesn’t help the quality of golf (and as people can tell you, I watch an unhealthy amount of golf)
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:06 pm to lsupride87
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From day 1 I said there are sunshine events that are 54 holes that get points….
Really? Might need to edit more posts...
TD Thread
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Because the Golding standard is 72 holes with a cut
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Are there some one off events that differ, yes
There are several tours approved for OWGR points that are 54 hole tournaments, no just "one off events"
Your stance as changed through out this and will most likely change some more.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:07 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:07 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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There are several tours approved for OWGR points that are 54 hole tournaments, no just "one off events"
Your stance as changed through out this and will most likely change some more.
A week ago he didn't know what the OWGR was.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 12:08 pm to deathvalleytiger10
Henrik Stenson got T1 OWGR points that they gave out in a mixed event 2 weeks ago when he lost by 9. The Tour Championship gives out points for a shadow leaderboard. I don’t think we need to pretend like the OWGR is some high and mighty authority for tourneys.
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