re: Scottie Pippen’s memoir seems to throw some big Michael Jordan shade

Posted by lsupride87

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:24 pm to Suck Out West

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Pippen wins no rings without MJ while MJ likely wins a few without Pippen.

The bulls were better with Pippen minus MJ than they were with MJ minus Pippen

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Posted by Smoke7024

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:25 pm to Byrdybyrd05

Does Pippen really think he wasn’t considered a sidekick before this doc?

Posted by Lsuespn

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:36 pm to Byrdybyrd05

Pipp been a bitch that’s why his wife left him and everybody been piping down his ex wife since.

Posted by Bench McElroy

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:38 pm to lsupride87

Horace Grant was a very underrated part of the Bulls first three-peat run. Bulls won 55 games with Pippen and Grant as their two best players, Grant left, and the Bulls went 33-31 in ‘95 before Jordan came back. Also, the Bulls went 24-11 when Pippen was out with the back injury in 1998.

Posted by ccsavage21

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:38 pm to Suck Out West

How was MJ doing before he got Scottie? Several first round playoff exits come to mind. In MJ’s prime as well

Posted by Suntiger

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:50 pm to Buckeye06

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He was Robin to MJs Batman

This is the issue. LeBron is Batman and Anthony “Street Clothes” Davis is Robin. That’s a good comparison.

Pippen is more like Batman, but Jordan is Superman.
They are both great players and neither would have been as good as they were without the other. Plus having Phil as coach with great role players like Grant, Kerr, Rodman & Harper just made for some great teams.

Posted by drake20

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:50 pm to Byrdybyrd05

Pippen is a footnote in basketball history without Jordan.

Posted by Akit1

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 6:06 pm to lsupride87

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Pippen wins no rings without MJ while MJ likely wins a few without Pippen.

2000 Blazers were thisclose to getting to the NBA Finals with Pippen. Bummer.

Posted by lepdagod

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 6:20 pm to RobbBobb

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when to powerhouses Houston (Barkely, Olajuwan) and Portland (Rasheed, Detlef, Steve Smith, Sabonis, Kemp) and didnt win another one.

Powerhouses a stretch... Pippen had two MVP caliber seasons when Jordan semi-retired

Posted by whatiknowsofar

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:04 pm to lsupride87

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The bulls were better with Pippen minus MJ than they were with MJ minus Pippen

That's misleading. Pippen had Phil for the majority of his Bulls tenure. MJ did not.

Posted by lsupride87

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:09 pm to whatiknowsofar

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That's misleading. Pippen had Phil for the majority of his Bulls tenure. MJ did not.

Im not trying to mislead. I’m just pointing out what happened in their nba careers

But on the blazers and the bulls, Pippen was more successful than MJ was without pippen

So blindly guaranteeing MJ would have won more titles without Pippen seems somewhat unfair

This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 7:11 pm

Posted by lsuguy84

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:22 pm to Byrdybyrd05

Posted by Powerman

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:32 pm to QJenk

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Yup. Without Jordan, Pippen wins zero championships. Without Pippen, Jordan probably wins 2, maybe even 3.

1 or 2 at best. Pippen was too valuable as a defender.

Posted by Hayekian serf

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:34 pm to Byrdybyrd05

Odds are he spoke with MJ and told him it’s about the bucks, and MJ doesn’t give a crap.

In fact he’ll probably give some meaty quotes to help sales.

This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 7:35 pm

Posted by NawlinsTiger9

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:43 pm to Byrdybyrd05

Every negative thing about Pippen in The Last Dance came directly out of his own mouth

Posted by brmark70816

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Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:55 pm to NawlinsTiger9

My lasting memory of Pippen will be the battles with Detroit and his "migraines". He was terrified of playing them and they abused him. It took him years to overcome and become a steady sidekick..