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re: Scottie Pippen’s memoir seems to throw some big Michael Jordan shade

Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:57 am to
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:57 am to
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Pippen details how he cringed at being labeled Jordan’s sidekick,

Welp this tells me all I need to know.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:10 am to
AD in his prime with lebron.

Scottie’s prime was several years after mike drug him to a title.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:14 am to
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AD in his prime with lebron.

AD has played with Lebron at age 27 and 28

Pippen was 26-28 during the first title run

You are slipping Boom. If pippen wasnt an all that number 2, neither is AD
Posted by Gings5
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:22 am to
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Scottie was not all that by any means.


Scottie is a top 5 small forward of all time.

Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:02 am to
Hell if Pippen played out his rookie contract instead of signing that dumb extension in 91 and signed for big money somewhere else after MJ retired, the Bulls team would’ve been frickED
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:17 am to
Pippen wasn’t even all nba when they won the first title or 2.

AD had been all NBA many many times prior to going w Bron.

pip was a little more than “just a guy” when mike won his first titles with him. Whereas AD = perennial all star in his prime.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 9:19 am
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:19 am to
Bottom line.. they needed each other. Simple as that
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 1:10 pm to
This isn’t about resenting anyone. This is SP trying to sell books. MJ will help him do so. There will be a lot more “talk”, between now and November, that will help sell more books. My 2¢, anyway.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 1:32 pm to
Look at Scottie’s stats first couple of years in Chicago, he wasn’t remotely close to a Robin, he really didn’t become a viable “sidekick” in the league until his first all-star year in 1990 and never looked back, the Bulls truly came into their own as a team when Jackson took over for Collins and Scottie improved enough to assume a more prominent role on the team. A lot of that derives from MJ as most of the rational world attests to, his leadership made a massive difference and made his teammates tough and that translates to Scottie most particularly, to act as if MJ didn’t exude that influence is literally denying facts.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:04 pm to
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 A lot of that derives from MJ as most of the rational world attests to, his leadership made a massive difference and made his teammates tough and that translates to Scottie most particularly, to act as if MJ didn’t exude that influence is literally denying facts.


Pippen was just as equally competitive as Jordan. To place Pippen's development simply on Jordan is foolish. All you have to do is research the stories of how both competed against each in every aspect of life outside of basketball.

No beta male bitch would dare challenge Jordan the way Pippen did in that era with Jordan being viewed as god like across the globe. Yet Pippen did that.

Even on the court. Their one on one pick up games after practices are legendary where neither Jordan nor Pippen wanting to the leave the gym after a loss. Sometimes they would play each other all night. Former Bull teammates have verified these stories over the years.

Jordan had the greatest marketing campaign ever seen by mankind thanks to Nike & the NBA. We may never see another marketing campaign like that ever again & thank goodness. The fallout from that campaign placed Jordan on such a high pedestal to where he became this mystical type being with so many people, that those people have lost the ability to be logical or rational when it comes to discussing anything Jordan even 20-30 years after the events originally occurred.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 4:13 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:06 pm to
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Madonna thought Scottie was a bigger piece of the Bulls dynasty than Michael, apparently.


As in bigger meat pistol
Posted by BigBrod81
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:11 pm to
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MJ wasn’t winning shite before he got star power.


Yep. The Pistons would beat up MJ & take his lunch money (The Jordan Rules). It wasn't until Pippen fully came into his own that MJ & the Bulls were finally able to take down Detroit then stomp the Lakers in the Finals.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:49 pm to
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Such a leader that he refused to come off the bench in the 95 playoffs because the play wasn't drawn up for him. fricked the whole locker room up.


Pippen quit for one play. Jordan quit at the age of 30 for 18 months because he said he had "no motivation". Both instances fricked up the lockeroom equally but Jordan's saga had a negative effect on both the 94-95 & 95-96.

I found it amazing the different viewpoints on both of these situations. It just goes to show you how the media & the Nike marketing campaign concerning Jordan during those days completely warped a lot of people's mind when it comes to anything Jordan related. There's no objectivity or logical reasoning with the majority of these type. The irony of it all is that many of these types are now anti media especially the news media yet they don't even realize that they fell hook, line & sinker when it comes to how the media transformed Jordan into this mythical flawless larger than life human being. These types will completely ignore or make excuses for actual factual events that occurred.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:11 pm to
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Scottie was not all that by any means.






Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:13 pm to
My post is talking about getting over the hump and beating detroit. At that point Scott was not even an all nba players. Jordan didn’t need an all NBA caliber teammate to win a title. Scott became that over time, but certainly wasn’t at first.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:32 pm to
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Without Jordan, Pippen wins zero championships.


That 2000 Portland team was good enough to win it all.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:46 pm to
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My post


Your post (opinions) are like assholes. Both deal with the passing along of shite.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:54 pm to
LeBron James isn’t going to have sex with you, son
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65086 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:55 pm to
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Jordan quit at the age of 30 for 18 months because he said he had "no motivation".


His dad had just been murdered.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:58 pm to
And he actually contemplated retirement for a year at that point but remained because he wanted to threepeat which is something his contemporaries never did, was a combination of many things
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