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re: Scottie Pippen’s memoir seems to throw some big Michael Jordan shade
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:19 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:19 pm to RollTide1987
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His dad had just been murdered.
And Pippen for years had been underpaid & under appreciated by Jerry Krause. Finally when the Bulls were "his team" & in the biggest moment of the that season, Phil Jackson drew up a last second play for Toni Kukoc instead of for Pippen. On top of everything that was going on behind the scenes between Pippen & Bulls management, the play call for Kukoc was a public slap in the face for the whole world to see live.
Yet Jordan is still perceived as this person where nothing ever phased him. Everyone of his worshippers are always quick to point out game winning shots or the flu game as proof of Jordan being this Teflon Don personality. Jordan has stated numerous times that he "walked away" because he longer had the fire at that time to play basketball any longer & that he wanted to pursue his childhood dream of playing professional baseball. No matter the reasoning, the truth is Jordan QUIT on his teammates & coaches in the prime of his career. The same teammates especially Pippen who helped Jordan accomplish TEAM oriented success. Team oriented success that catapulted Jordan's image into what it ultimately became then & still is to this day.
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:26 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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LeBron James isn’t going to have sex with you, son
This has nothing to do with LeBron James & nowhere has he even been mentioned in this thread.
Now you definitely were an internet LeBron dick rider awhile back especially on the MSB. Sounds like you maybe got rejected in an advancement to try ride LeBron's dick irl. That would explain the 180 you've had concerning LeBron & why you were the first to even his bring name in this thread. Sorry you didn't even get just the tip.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:26 pm to BigBrod81
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Pippen was just as equally competitive as Jordan.
Speculative, I agree he ultimately reached that point but it wasn't Day 1 type stuff
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To place Pippen's development simply on Jordan is foolish.
How I know you didn't read my post
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A lot of that derives from MJ as most of the rational world attests to
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All you have to do is research the stories of how both competed against each in every aspect of life outside of basketball.
What on Earth does this have to do with MJ exuding his influence to make Scottie what he ultimately became?
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No beta male bitch would dare challenge Jordan the way Pippen did in that era with Jordan being viewed as god like across the globe.
Sources? I know this happened down the line but this comes off like a giant Scottie suck off session
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Even on the court. Their one on one pick up games after practices are legendary where neither Jordan nor Pippen wanting to the leave the gym after a loss. Sometimes they would play each other all night. Former Bull teammates have verified these stories over the years.
Though I have not received definitive proof of this, I don't doubt this happened. I mean, I've heard stories of Michael and Scottie working out at the same time and arriving at the gym at the same time as they became veterans. I also know the famous Craig Hodges 1990 story about when MJ lit Scottie up in practice as repeated by Bill Simmons in his famous book.
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The fallout from that campaign placed Jordan on such a high pedestal to where he became this mystical type being with so many people
I'm pretty sure his dominance and incredible athletic ability on the court played a major role in this
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that those people have lost the ability to be logical or rational when it comes to discussing anything Jordan even 20-30 years after the events originally occurred.
Nope, MJ was a dominant and legendary player, that's a totally logical and rational conclusion to reach, the stats back it up and so do the tapes.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:28 pm to BigBrod81
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And Pippen for years had been underpaid & under appreciated by Jerry Krause. Finally when the Bulls were "his team" & in the biggest moment of the that season, Phil Jackson drew up a last second play for Toni Kukoc instead of for Pippen. On top of everything that was going on behind the scenes between Pippen & Bulls management, the play call for Kukoc was a public slap in the face for the whole world to see live.
Yet Jordan is still perceived as this person where nothing ever phased him. Everyone of his worshippers are always quick to point out game winning shots or the flu game as proof of Jordan being this Teflon Don personality. Jordan has stated numerous times that he "walked away" because he longer had the fire at that time to play basketball any longer & that he wanted to pursue his childhood dream of playing professional baseball. No matter the reasoning, the truth is Jordan QUIT on his teammates & coaches in the prime of his career. The same teammates especially Pippen who helped Jordan accomplish TEAM oriented success. Team oriented success that catapulted Jordan's image into what it ultimately became then & still is to this day.
MJ welch on a bet with you or something? This is some incredible hate being expressed relating to the GOAT, insecurity
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:29 pm to BigBrod81
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This has nothing to do with LeBron James & nowhere has he even been mentioned in this thread.
Now you definitely were an internet LeBron dick rider awhile back especially on the MSB. Sounds like you maybe got rejected in an advancement to try ride LeBron's dick irl. That would explain the 180 you've had concerning LeBron & why you were the first to even his name in this thread. Sorry you didn't even get just the tip.
I fricking love the insecurity of this dude attempting to tear down MJ to hype people up as somehow better, this is pure comedy GOLD
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:32 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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I know this happened down the line but this comes off like a giant Scottie suck off session
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Nope, MJ was a dominant and legendary player, that's a totally logical and rational conclusion to reach, the stats back it up and so do the tapes.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:35 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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ThePTExperience1969
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:41 pm to Suck Out West
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No shite. How respected does he need to be? MJ called him the best teammate he ever had in Last Dance.
Exactly. He even had an entire episode of the series devoted to him.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:35 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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I fricking love the insecurity of this dude attempting to tear down MJ to hype people up as somehow better, this is pure comedy GOLD
Hmmm......
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:40 pm to Byrdybyrd05
Pippen is right. He carried JorCasino to 6 rings, couldn’t make it out of the first round without him.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:46 pm to BigBrod81
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No matter the reasoning, the truth is Jordan QUIT on his teammates & coaches in the prime of his career. The same teammates especially Pippen who helped Jordan accomplish TEAM oriented success. Team oriented success that catapulted Jordan's image into what it ultimately became then & still is to this day.
He quit after a 3peat which was extraordinary at the time and he played 40+ mins every game, was the face of the league for years, always in the spotlight and his father MURDERED, his best friend.....he said many times how much his dad loved baseball.
MJ was mentally and physically exausted...took 1.5 years off and did a 3peat AGAIN all while carrying the league and dealing with idiot management.
Pippin was very good but overall the Bulls was not a super team. 1st 3peat. MJ, SP and Grant....NOTHING ELSE. THE 2ND 3peat MJ, SP, Rodman and Tony (the last year)....nothing else but avg Joe's and a few past their prime player (Harper being 1).
The truth is Jordan was always getting the last shot. Phil didn't have faith in SP. Pippen really didn't evolve until the 90 season and sat out a huge game with a headache, Jordan drops 35 with a headache and locks down his guy defensively.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:19 pm to BHTiger
I can respect this post because you actually portrayed Jordan as a human first & foremost in your post & not some god like being. But you missed the actual point here.
There was no Jordan in the 1995 playoffs. Jordan was off playing baseball. The right situation came about to give Pippen an opportunity to show what he was capable at the end of a playoff game & instead Phil Jackson drew up the opportunity for Toni Kukoc instead.
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The truth is Jordan was always getting the last shot. Phil didn't have faith in SP.
There was no Jordan in the 1995 playoffs. Jordan was off playing baseball. The right situation came about to give Pippen an opportunity to show what he was capable at the end of a playoff game & instead Phil Jackson drew up the opportunity for Toni Kukoc instead.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:24 pm to BigBrod81
How I know you don’t have a life LOL
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:32 pm to BigBrod81
I was talking about when they played together. MJ always got THE SHOT. Never a peep from SP.....he resented Tony since the drafting of him around the time of the 92 games.
After SP left the bulls he was on a few very good teams but he wasn’t ever THE GUY. His chance was during MJs playing baseball and he did very well but he wasn’t MJ.
After SP left the bulls he was on a few very good teams but he wasn’t ever THE GUY. His chance was during MJs playing baseball and he did very well but he wasn’t MJ.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:53 pm to BHTiger
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I was talking about when they played together.
Yet you used a quote from my post where I was specifically responding to someone else who brought that moment where Kukoc was given the opportunity to hit a game winner in the 95 playoffs.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:02 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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How I know you don’t have a life LOL
You just mad because you got your draws kicked in your arse.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:03 pm to BigBrod81
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You just mad because you got your draws kicked in your arse.
Explain how you allegedly did this
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:28 pm to Byrdybyrd05
How many rings did Pippen win while Jordan went to play baseball? How many rings did Pippen win when he went to Phoenix? Jordan was the Alpha and Pippen still hasn't grasped that concept all these years layer.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:33 pm to uptowntiger84
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How many rings did Pippen win while Jordan went to play baseball?
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Jordan was the Alpha
How many rings did MJ, the "ultimate alpha" win without Pippen?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:40 pm to BigBrod81
Are you saying that Jordan would have never won a title without Pippen?
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