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Posted on 4/27/26 at 5:16 am to JoeyP239
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Very Lance Armstrong-y these results
This guy runs 100+ miles a week at 6500ft elevation - on nearly flat ground - in Kapsabet, Kenya.
Coming down to run in London at basically 0' elevation probably does feel like steroids to these guys.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 5:43 am to jmcwhrter
If sawe is doping he’s on some interesting shite…
He’s basically begged World Athletics to test him as much as possible
He’s basically begged World Athletics to test him as much as possible
Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:37 am to Pedro
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If sawe is doping he’s on some interesting shite…
Lance Armstrong paid 100 grand to buy a blood testing machine for cycling's antidopers. The team of his biggest rival was getting doped by a scientist who also ran a German university's antidoping research program.
The women's marathon world record holder tested negative over and over and over until she tested positive for a massive amount of diuretic drug in her system that can fool tests.
I'm very skeptical that anybody can be an elite distance runner, much less a world record holder, without blood doping because it's that effective, even in small doses. I'm sure the shoes help but not as much as using methods that supercharge the amount of oxygen that can be transported in the blood.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:47 am to quail man
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Maurten changing the game in nutrition. The carbohydrate revolution over the last 5 years has fundamentally changed the game in endurance sport. I can attest to it personally.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:52 am to crazyLSUstudent
Yeah lots of talk about the shoes (and rightfully so) but high carb fueling coming over cycling has made a massive difference in performance.
Not just in race but in recovering after sessions. You don’t deplete yourself during workouts. Similar effect to super shoes.
Not just in race but in recovering after sessions. You don’t deplete yourself during workouts. Similar effect to super shoes.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:12 am to CrawfishElvis
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I feel attacked
Nothing wrong with running a 25 minute 5k
Nothing wrong with wearing carbon shoes
Nothing wrong with attending run clubs
There is something wrong with wearing carbon shoes to run a 25 minute 5k at your run club
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:16 am to lsubatman1
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Probably needs investagating. Not really posible for the human body to do this naturally!
People say this about all major athletic milestones
Training, nutrition, and equipment are going to continue to get better. And humans will breed new athletes. Imagine this guy having babies with a female marathonner and the kid trains from childhood with even further advancement in training, nutrition, and technology
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:50 am to CatfishJohn
Yea there’s always gonna be advancements. I think we’re getting pretty close to the limit in marathoning but I’m sure I’ll be proven wrong. It’s just hard for me to envision anyone getting down to like 1:57
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:14 am to Pedro
I'm just still trying to wrap my head around running sub 2, something that has never been done, and NOT winning the marathon
I mean that has to suck, right?
I mean that has to suck, right?
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:13 am to lsubatman1
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Probably needs investagating. Not really posible for the human body to do this naturally! Now, if steroids would be alowed like they should, since sports are for FAN entertainment, then this argument could be dropped for good. However, as it curently stands, im claiming cheating!
Bruh, two people went sub 2:00 in this same race
Even the fastest female finisher was 2:15. Much slower than the men, but for frame of reference it’s only the 15th best female time ever
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:15 am to Salmon
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I mean that has to suck, right?
Technically he didn’t break a WR. That’s the worst part. He shattered it by almost a minute, but because the other guy finished 10 seconds ahead of him, he never broke the WR - the new one was set before he finished the race
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:25 am to Upperdecker
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Technically he didn’t break a WR. That’s the worst part. He shattered it by almost a minute, but because the other guy finished 10 seconds ahead of him, he never broke the WR - the new one was set before he finished the race
Yeah but the guy ahead of him assisted in helping his own pace. In the Olympics when runners are trying to break records they usually have one team member (who isn’t meant to be competitive in the race), go out faster than normal to set the pace which helps the person trying to break a record.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:29 am to Salmon
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I'm just still trying to wrap my head around running sub 2, something that has never been done, and NOT winning the marathon I mean that has to suck, right?
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:36 am to Jake88
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Which shoes?
the Adios Pro 4 would be the scaled back version for the masses
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:42 am to Sun God
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I can barely run a half marathon at that pace
I can't run 100 yards at that pace.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:50 am to Pedro
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Yea there’s always gonna be advancements. I think we’re getting pretty close to the limit in marathoning but I’m sure I’ll be proven wrong. It’s just hard for me to envision anyone getting down to like 1:57
People once believed a four-minute mile was impossible - an outlandish barrier no one could ever break.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 12:09 pm to RolltidePA
My high school had a very good track team (multiple state titles) though only a handful of truly elite athletes.
However, there were usually 1-2 kids per class who would do college track and field. The key was that the good performers were scattered across every event: discus, high jump, pole vault 5000 meters, etc.
Anyways in April and May of 8th grade, our PE unit was essentially having us all do like 12-15 track and field events.
The coach would always say “you never know what you’re good at until you try it”.
I remember the 400 meter race very well because it was a brutal event for me, much harder than the mile because you’re going close to all out the entire time. Much tougher than the 100 because it goes on so much longer at nearly the same pace for 4x the duration.
Now I’m not good, but the elites also hate the 400. The best 400 meter runners in the US literally try to move down in events. Some are successful (Fred Kerley), others are unsuccessful (Michael Norman) and begrudgingly win the 400 meter world title because they can’t make the US team for a shorter distance.
The very best 400 meter time from my cohort (granted we were 13-14 years old) was 1:00 flat. A guy who ended up playing D-1 football ran 1:05. I ran a 1:13 and vomited afterward. There were many worse times of course.
Everyone of us was truly winded after doing this 400 meter race once.
Sawe and Kejelcha each did it 105 times in a row
FWIW they averaged 1:08-1:09 for the first 90 percent of the race and then closed at a 1:04 pace.
However, there were usually 1-2 kids per class who would do college track and field. The key was that the good performers were scattered across every event: discus, high jump, pole vault 5000 meters, etc.
Anyways in April and May of 8th grade, our PE unit was essentially having us all do like 12-15 track and field events.
The coach would always say “you never know what you’re good at until you try it”.
I remember the 400 meter race very well because it was a brutal event for me, much harder than the mile because you’re going close to all out the entire time. Much tougher than the 100 because it goes on so much longer at nearly the same pace for 4x the duration.
Now I’m not good, but the elites also hate the 400. The best 400 meter runners in the US literally try to move down in events. Some are successful (Fred Kerley), others are unsuccessful (Michael Norman) and begrudgingly win the 400 meter world title because they can’t make the US team for a shorter distance.
The very best 400 meter time from my cohort (granted we were 13-14 years old) was 1:00 flat. A guy who ended up playing D-1 football ran 1:05. I ran a 1:13 and vomited afterward. There were many worse times of course.
Everyone of us was truly winded after doing this 400 meter race once.
Sawe and Kejelcha each did it 105 times in a row
FWIW they averaged 1:08-1:09 for the first 90 percent of the race and then closed at a 1:04 pace.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 4/27/26 at 12:32 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Sawe and Kejelcha each did it 105 times in a row
FWIW they averaged 1:08-1:09 for the first 90 percent of the race and then closed at a 1:04 pace.
I was on the 4x800 team that won Pennsylvania state title back in the mid 90's. I ran the opening leg and my time in that race was a 1:54.
These guys are running close to that pace for 26 miles. It's unreal. Like I said before... I couldn't run 100 yards at that pace anymore without a severe health issue.
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