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re: Ryan Clark doubles down on RGIII spat

Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:08 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69083 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:08 am to
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You don’t have to trash others to lift up your own, seemingly to seek the appeal of others. That’s all he saying. Because if you’re doing that to gain favor from a group, and they require you to trash your own to be in their group, that’s a pretty shitty and morally corrupted group. Do you really want to be apart of that negative of a group? A group that seems to be bonded based on animus?

So you're not allowed to criticize people of your own race if that race is a minority? Regardless of whether or not the statement is justified?

Honestly, if you listen to what RGIII initially said about Angel Reese, his thesis was just that it's obvious she doesn't like Caitlin Clark. He then gave anecdotal examples of incidents involving those two to give weight to his statement. And that statement isn't nor should it be controversial. She doesn't like Caitlin Clark. Not to mention, even had RGIII gone further and talked about Angel Reese's media "stigma" in general, it's fair game in sports media. RGIII and/or Angel Reese being black should have no bearing on sports media members opining on sports topics or what they're allowed to say.

When guys like Draymond Green do something ridiculous, you'll see the talking heads on the sports networks call a spade a spade. Is it because Angel Reese is a woman that they think she needs to be treated with baby gloves? Like why is she above criticism. She really does nothing to help her image. It's pretty clear to most who have watched her story unfold that she has some pinned up jealousy as it pertains to Caitlin Clark and the attention she receives. RGIII was effectively commenting on that. Ryan Clark then made it about race and gender and then decided to make it personal between he and RGIII, and it's also pretty damn clear at this point that those two have history and Clark doesn't like him.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 10:29 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69083 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:08 am to
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Do you actually know POCs that believe this is today or is it that what you want to believe…?

Yes
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160509 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:10 am to
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Plenty of black men have white wives and are still culturally connected. RG3 is not one of them.

My brother married a white woman and he's not a cornball brotha like RG3.


Geez…might seem crazy to you, but some don’t think the color of their skin has to dictate every single action of their lives.


This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 10:12 am
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12117 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:11 am to
Nah man, you are the one with an elementary understanding of the big picture, because you are so caught up in your "nuances". Seeing everything as "us vs them" is holding you back. Successful people dont think like that. they see successful vs unsuccessful. Productive vs non-productive. A successful productive person of any race should be respected and modeled. Not ridiculed for leaving the others behind.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
2040 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:18 am to
Sam Ponder saying men should only be allowed to participate in men sports isn’t normal?? Dude, go kick rocks
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35372 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:25 am to
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are still culturally connected.


This is cringe
Posted by Downeast12
Member since Jun 2022
779 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:25 am to
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You don’t have to trash others to lift up your own, seemingly to seek the appeal of others


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Because if you’re doing that to gain favor from a group, and they require you to trash your own to be in their group, that’s a pretty shitty and morally corrupted group.


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negative of a group


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based on animus


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insecure, self hating, and low self esteem.


Man you really summed up Ryan Clark perfectly here
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35372 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:31 am to
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A successful productive person of any race should be respected and modeled. Not ridiculed for leaving the others behind.

Some people define their whole existence by the color of their skin, it's sad.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25903 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:34 am to
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How am I dumber than you when the guy explicitly said it wasn’t because he married a white woman?

Do you read want you want to see or what people can’t write…he explained why he though he was self loathing and I explained in it more general terms.

It fits. Sorry you don’t want to get it but it was plainly put for you

The basis for claiming RGIII is culturally disconnected is the color of his wife’s skin. Sure, you can pretend there’s some sort of nuance to it and that others just lack understanding. That’s all a crock of shite to cover the racist premise of it.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46805 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:36 am to
So you can't criticize blacks unless you are black, and if you criticize blacks, you aren't really black? Got it.

Obviously only whites can criticize whites, and if you criticize whites, you aren't really white.

Sounds like a push for segregation since there can be no understanding between blacks and whites.


Sorry not responding to you EAA, just in general to the thread.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 10:37 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
63050 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:05 am to
Pass. I will criticize all.

Suck it racists
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12117 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:05 am to
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He discusses issues that are apparent because they don’t go away. Problems don’t go away if you just stop talking about them.


Id love to hear what these problems are that are so important that RC keep them afloat. Is White vs Black racism really that widespread in 2025 that we have to constantly talk about it? Or do some people with a victim mentality want it to remain an issue or even make it a bigger issue than it really is? Maybe they even profit from it or make a career from race hustling. For some reason these same people skip over the problems of widespread drugs, violence, fatherless homes, gangs, unemployment, etc in the community, but want to cling to racism that is literally on life support and they keep trying to revive it.

i knew RC a little bit at LSU. I never thought he was racist then but he certainly had a victim mentality about everything. Not just race.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 11:25 am
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
5687 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:25 am to
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You’re not in the culture but you get to dictate how it goes?
There's POC on social media every day saying "wyt pypo don't even have a culture". There's right and wrong. People are tired of excusing bad behavior because it's "part of our culture".
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17768 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:00 pm to
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The basis for claiming RGIII is culturally disconnected is the color of his wife’s skin. Sure, you can pretend there’s some sort of nuance to it and that others just lack understanding. That’s all a crock of shite to cover the racist premise of it.


No the premise of his disconnect is how he speaks about these issues and the positions he takes and his understanding of it as well. And the audience he caters the message toward.

The people he speaks to are constantly criticizing and victim blaming POCs. Nothing they do is good enough in their eyes unless they compile with the box in which they see them in. Why should anyone cater to group that has just a low opinion of people if they dont do as they say and do as they please? That means they only appreciate you with conditions. Conditional love is wack
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
3767 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:02 pm to
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You don’t have to trash others to lift up your own, seemingly to seek the appeal of others.
you mean what Clark constantly does? Or the black population in general if someone’s not keeping it real?
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Because if you’re doing that to gain favor from a group, and they require you to trash your own to be in their group, that’s a pretty shitty and morally corrupted group
lol you’re playing yourself with this. You’re constantly describing black culture as a whole here. god forbid if someone speaks, dresses, dates, or lives somewhere different from what the so called norm is supposed to be they are “sell outs” or “uncle toms”.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 12:03 pm
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6152 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:05 pm to
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StrongSafety


Thought you were permabanned.

And I see your schtick is still the same.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69083 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:18 pm to
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No the premise of his disconnect is how he speaks about these issues and the positions he takes and his understanding of it as well. And the audience he caters the message toward.

There’s nothing profound or nuanced about Angel Reese not liking Caitlin Clark. It’s obvious to anyone with eyes. There’s no audience to cater to. Those two are the more well known figures in women’s basketball. A sports rivalry isn’t that deep bud

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victim blaming POCs

Angel Reese is a victim? Of what exactly?
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
2040 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:16 pm to
In 2025, there is nothing more pathetic than a black person screaming racism. In this day and age black people call their own shots. While statues are being torn down, statues of fat, black women get erected in Times Square.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30831 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:26 pm to
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Plenty of black men have white wives and are still culturally connected
can you define "culturally connected" for us?
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
15001 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:43 pm to
What he means is that they can't be individuals speaking and thinking for themselves but instead have to do and say everything the same as other people with the same skin color
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 1:45 pm
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