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Robert Horry: Rudy T best coach, not Phil J or Gregg Pop. Kobe hardest worker.

Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:12 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:12 pm
Robert Horry wrote a really good read at https://www.theplayerstribune.com/robert-horry-kobe-phil-jackson-lakers/


Some interesting parts:


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Here are a few things I think: Brent Barry was one of the smartest players I ever played with in the NBA. Rudy Tomjanovich was the best coach I ever had, not Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich. Kobe Bryant was the hardest working player I ever played with. The Triangle is just a fancy name for the same plays that 50 percent of the NBA runs. Dennis Rodman was a genius. Basketball is a ruthless business. Winners don’t take no shite.



On Kobe:

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I’ll give you another example. When I got traded to the Lakers in ’97, Kobe Bryant was just a rookie. The dude couldn’t shoot threes. We would play this shooting game every day after practice. It was me, Kobe, Brian Shaw, Mitch Richmond and Kurt Rambis. Kobe would lose every time. We would get to practice the next day and sure enough, Kobe would already be there shooting nothing but threes. Like clockwork, at the end of practice he’d say, “Let’s play the game! I’m ready for you.” And we would beat his arse again.

He would never stop. It was incredible. He practiced until one day, a couple months later, he finally won. If you literally said, “Kobe, I bet you can’t make five in a row by dropping the ball and kicking it in from half court,” that motherfricker would go out there and practice it until he could do it. And that’s what people don’t understand when they talk about champions — when they talk about a winner’s mentality. Kobe’s dedication to the game is unreal. And I mean that in the truest sense … it was literally unbelievable. The common denominator in every championship team is the mentality that Kobe has, and the mentality that Hakeem had with me at that Christmas party. You have to be so obsessed with winning that you pull no punches with your teammates, even when you’re in first place. Even when you’re a defending champ.

Whenever I hear people crying about Kobe yelling at people in practice, or wondering whether or not LeBron is best friends with his teammates, I just roll my eyes. You know how many off-court conversations I had with the Zen-Master Phil Jackson in my entire time with the Lakers? One. I was sitting in the trainer’s room getting treatment and he was sitting on the table across from me.

“What happened with you and Danny Ainge in Phoenix?” he asked.

“I didn’t like him, so I blew up and threw a towel at him. I didn’t handle it the right way.”

“Okay.”

And that was it. We won three titles together. Go figure.




Back to his opinion on his coaches:

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The polar opposite of that was my relationship with Rudy T. He understood that even though he was the coach, we could see things that he couldn’t see from the bench. We could hear things and feel things on the court that he couldn’t see. First thing T would say was, “What’s going on out there?” He would ask us the plays we would want to run sometimes and get a feel for what we were comfortable with.

If we ran a play and it worked, T would tell us to run it again. Phil not so much. Same with Pop. They are both great in their own right, but based on personal experience, T was the greatest NBA coach. I know he doesn’t have nearly as many championships, but sometimes we give one person too much credit for titles.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:15 pm to
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He would never stop. It was incredible. He practiced until one day, a couple months later, he finally won. If you literally said, “Kobe, I bet you can’t make five in a row by dropping the ball and kicking it in from half court,” that motherfricker would go out there and practice it until he could do it. And that’s what people don’t understand when they talk about champions — when they talk about a winner’s mentality. Kobe’s dedication to the game is unreal. And I mean that in the truest sense … it was literally unbelievable. The common denominator in every championship team is the mentality that Kobe has, and the mentality that Hakeem had with me at that Christmas party. You have to be so obsessed with winning that you pull no punches with your teammates, even when you’re in first place. Even when you’re a defending champ.



Kobe is the boss.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:16 pm to
Kobe
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:23 pm to
I don't mean to be a "that dude" but what's impressive about him shooting tons of 3s? Every single great player has that exact same story or something similar.

Thought what he said about the coaches was cool. I've always wondered how much coaches listen to players during games.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:24 pm to
Pretty funny that Horry said "sometimes we give one person too much credit for titles."

Oh the irony


Thanks for posting. Good read.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:31 pm to
thanks for posting great article
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:34 pm to
Oh Robert
Posted by RTR America
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

I don't mean to be a "that dude" but what's impressive about him shooting tons of 3s? Every single great player has that exact same story or something similar.


Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:34 pm to
ive always loved Horry, but for someone with 7 rings he seems awfully bitter and entitled.. Comes off as a bitch.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:35 pm to
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ive always loved Horry, but for someone with 7 rings he seems awfully bitter and entitled.. Comes off as a bitch.


he did go to Alabama, so there's that.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

I don't mean to be a "that dude" but what's impressive about him shooting tons of 3s? Every single great player has that exact same story or something similar.



its his intensity and competitiveness that some modern day players could learn a thing or two. Some people act like they do, some just ARE.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:36 pm to
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but for someone with 7 rings he seems awfully bitter and entitled.
because he is

I'm not surprised he said phil wasn't his best coach
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:40 pm to


great read PTM
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 1:41 pm to
What? Y'all truly think a rookie having a chip on his shoulder and wanting to beat the vets at a 3 point game while improving his 3 point shooting is amazing?

Y'all really pick and choose what's amazing.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:00 pm to
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Pretty funny that Horry said "sometimes we give one person too much credit for titles."

Oh the irony


Thanks for posting. Good read.



I was thinking the same thing.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:02 pm to
We didn't pick the example, Robert Horry did....
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:11 pm to
Well, from what I read, it sounds like Kobe was the only guy who Horry played with who was like that. And he played with Kobe and Shaq and Hakeem and Drexler and Duncan. So to make that claim about Kobe when he played with 4 other shoe in HOFs must mean something
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:14 pm to
I realize that. And I find it odd. The NBA is FILLED with amazing and funny and shocking stories from practices and games and locker rooms and stuff. Kobe probably has 100 better than that. He's probably fought someone over a ping pong game.

I commented on that part of the article and another part as well. Didn't come in here to start shite. I thought the story was bizzarely weak.

If SVP asked him to give an interesting story from his years with Kobe and he said "he practiced his arse off to beat us at 3s his rookie year" there would be crickets.

Kobe might be the most interesting player in the NBA. Which is why I thought the story was weak and don't know why guys in here who are REALLY hard to impress were impressed.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:16 pm to
I agree. Not a great story. I'm sure there were better ones. Saying that Kobe would practice drop kicking shots if you challenged him to make five in a row was better.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:21 pm to
I'm an idiot
This post was edited on 6/12/15 at 2:23 pm
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