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re: Ricky Jean Francois "“If he (Luck) was in the SEC his draft stock would fall,”
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:51 am to GeauxTigersLee
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:51 am to GeauxTigersLee
If Jamarcus Russell can get drafted No.1 overall, i don't see whats to stop Andrew Luck with a power hosue team in the SEC.
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Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:53 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
I agree with RJF. If you put Luck on say a Kentucky, Miss St. or Ole Miss his stats would not be the same. He would be playing against SEC defense on a regular basis. He would be a good QB though but not that shite he doing against those weak arse teams.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:55 am to GeauxTigersLee
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The SEC has 6 defenses (5 in the top 10 nationally) that are better than the best defense Stanford will face all year in conference.
There are 2 great defenses in the SEC this year.
Do
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n't let facts get in the way of your opinion
and you don't get fooled by stats. Offense in the SEC are generally not as good, so that will skew the stats, by the same token, offenses tend to be better in the Pac 12.
Take Florida the "#10" defense. LSU hung 41 on them, LSU's offense is good, but certainly not so great that they could hang 41 on a "great" defense. Florida's D is ok, they have talent, but if JL/JJ and McCarron can torch them, then so would Luck.
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but it's absurd to say that his stats wouldn't suffer at least some by playing in the SEC vs the PAC12
that sounds logical, but it doesn't work that way. Luck's stats last year are similar to Russell's stats at LSU in 2006. And lets not foreget Tebow was playing SEC D's and put up some sick numbers. Funny that OU, with a "crappy" Big 12 D held Florida to a lower point total than any SEC team.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:55 am to TheFreakyRobber
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If you put Luck on say a Kentucky, Miss St. or Ole Miss his stats would not be the same. He would be playing against SEC defense on a regular basis. He would be a good QB though
Eli Manning drafted No.1. I think luck is way better than Eli.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:57 am to Chad504boy
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Eli Manning drafted No.1. I think luck is way better than Eli.
and he put up good numbers.
For crying out loud, Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson are QBing an offense that has scored 35, 41, 38, 38 (7 was on pick 6) in 4 strait SEC games.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:59 am to H-Town Tiger
Tim Couch, Eli Manning, Jamarcus Russell, yet not andrew luck? It's retarded IMO.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:24 am to DEANintheYAY
The all world 2003 Heisman winning QB (name fogetten) from Oklahoma called to say he thinks ole Ricky might be on to something.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:28 am to Crow Pie
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The all world 2003 Heisman winning QB (name fogetten) from Oklahoma called to say he thinks ole Ricky might be on to something.
you do realize that not every SEC game is vs a national title contending defense right?
ETA: Here are Tebows stats from 2008, notice how he had 2 int in 8 SEC games, but 2 against a Big 12 defense from OU
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This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 10:31 am
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:46 am to Crow Pie
Yeah, cause he's as good as Luck.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:08 am to TheFreakyRobber
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If you put Luck on say a Kentucky
Like Tim Couch?
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Ole Miss
Like Eli Manning?
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Miss St
Meh. They still have fewer SEC titles than Tulane, so they don't really count.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:13 am to DEANintheYAY
I wouldn't pay much mind to anything RJF says.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:33 am to TheFreakyRobber
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If you put Luck on say a Kentucky, Miss St. or Ole Miss his stats would not be the same. He would be playing against SEC defense on a regular basis. He would be a good QB though but not that shite he doing against those weak arse teams.
Oh brother, you obviously don't even watch
a) PAC 12 football
b) Andrew Luck
What stats? He's not pulling a David Klingler or Timmy Chang.
Stanford is a power running team. Luck's stats aren't anything special.
This idea that he is getting all this love because he's throwing for 600 yards a game in the PAC 12 just shows how there are SOME damn ignorant people in the SEC are.
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This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 11:42 am
Posted on 10/26/11 at 11:38 am to Zamoro10
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shows how damn ignorant people in the SEC are.
don't lump all of us in the same boat now
Posted on 10/26/11 at 12:11 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Ricky is not on the 49ers.
not on active roster.
not on injury list.
not on 'taxi squad'.
As for Elway, he never beat Cal, in his 4 years. The band play was vs Elway.
Ricky is not on the 49ers.
not on active roster.
not on injury list.
not on 'taxi squad'.
As for Elway, he never beat Cal, in his 4 years. The band play was vs Elway.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:20 pm to RLDSC FAN
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So if Luck played for LSU or Bama he wouldnt' be as good?
It's one man's opinion about a QB that plays in a soft finess league vs a defensive oriented league. Don't get your panties in a wad. Onepeat.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 1:54 pm to Camp Randall
Otto check your link again. He is listed as # 95. It's under J for Jean-Francois.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 4:40 pm to LSU Tammany Tiger
Doesn't matter what conference you play in. What does matter if the kids has the skills to be an NFL quarterback.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 4:44 pm to Filmat11
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According to who? I would say that a lot of people have him in the top 5 QBs of all time.
Montana
Unitis
Manning
Young
Brady?
I dunno, though Elway was pretty damn good.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 5:11 pm to Jcorye1
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Manning?
FIFY
I don't think most put Young in the top 5.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 7:14 pm to H-Town Tiger
I do. Top 5 all time:
Montana
Young
Bono
Drunkenmiller
A. Smith
Montana
Young
Bono
Drunkenmiller
A. Smith
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