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Question for the tax experts: why don't college athletes have to pay taxes to away states
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:11 am
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:11 am
I know all the NBA, NFL and MLB guys have to pay taxes to all the states they play games in. I recall reading about how Sam Darnold lost money because the Super Bowl was in California.
Why don't college players?
Why don't college players?
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:14 am to SEC Doctor
Because they aren't earning the money for playing the games :wink:
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:17 am to SEC Doctor
The players aren't employees, they aren't being paid a salary, and they aren't earning "income" in those other states. They are being paid for their NIL. Is that an inducement to play for a certain school? Of course. But it is not a salary
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:28 am to SEC Doctor
Simple answer is that there earned income isn’t based on the actual game location but in theory their NIL…. Once the dust settles I’d imagine some states will try to capture some these monies by challenging that nuanced distinction
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:31 am to SEC Doctor
A player at a school like say USC/UCLA is on the hook for the high state and local taxes in CA though? Or is it based off of their home state?
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:49 am to Crimson K
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A player at a school like say USC/UCLA is on the hook for the high state and local taxes in CA though? Or is it based off of their home state?
I would have to imagine they pay state taxes where the income is earned, not their home state.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:54 am to SEC Doctor
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I would have to imagine they pay state taxes where the income is earned, not their home state.
Depends, could be both depending on the state where the income is earned and the state of domicile
Posted on 10/13/26 at 9:08 am to Alt26
Correct. Players often have multiple NIL deals. Similarly NFL players can have multiple endorsement deals. NFL players only pay a portion of their NFL salary as a visiting player tax in states where they play road games, they do not pay any portion of their endorsement deals.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:20 am to SEC Doctor
Arkansas passed a law, that NIL isn't subject to income tax
Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:26 am to TigerintheNO
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Arkansas passed a law, that NIL isn't subject to income tax
While this is absolutely retarded, it’s only payments made directly from the university. Any third party deals are still subject to tax
Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:44 am to Mingo Was His NameO
The revenue share that comes directly from the school should be taxed by game where it is earned IMO.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 11:07 am to MikeD
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The revenue share that comes directly from the school should be taxed by game where it is earned IMO.
Not for NIL because that's not money specifically paid for participating in games but yes for revenue sharing money provided by the school so my guess is that is happening.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 11:59 am to Diseasefreeforall
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but yes for revenue sharing money provided by the school so my guess is that is happening.
It’s not because the “adults” at the ncaa and universities say that NIL is not payment for participating in the games but for only their name, image, and likeness.
This is actually an interesting point though, because the IRS, state revenue departments, and tax courts aren’t really bound to the case law regarding eligibility and NIL, that could theoretically classify that income similar to professional athletics and duty days.
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:21 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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This is actually an interesting point though, because the IRS, state revenue departments, and tax courts aren’t really bound to the case law regarding eligibility and NIL, that could theoretically classify that income similar to professional athletics and duty days.
It might be a difficult case to make because they have to prove the NIL is really for playing.
The first NIL millionaire was Livvy. She wasn't even a starter. She got oaid for veing an influencer.
Flaujae got paid for being a rapper. Angel had modeling gigs. A state like California would have to prove she wouldn't have any modeling contracts without basketball.
Even with Arch Manning you'd have to prove something was a duty day, and he wasn't getting paid for being a Manning.
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:35 pm to SEC Doctor
I will chuckle in about 10 years when you start hearing stories about player A and player B in deep shite with the IRS because they didn't know anything about paying taxes. NIL was so rushed and irresponsible that of course it turned into this mess. These players weren't starving as they claimed, they got room and board and free clothing. We all failed and have lost the American amateur student athlete as a result. It needs burned down altogether... you wanna be paid to play sports then try out for a professional team at 18 or after high school!
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:36 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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It might be a difficult case to make because they have to prove the NIL is really for playing.
The players get a portion of the tv revenue directly from the universities
Posted on 10/13/26 at 12:37 pm to Indiangensing
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I will chuckle in about 10 years when you start hearing stories about player A and player B in deep shite with the IRS because they didn't know anything about paying taxes
Every P4 team has financial advisors for players on staff
Posted on 10/13/26 at 1:02 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Wonder how many players paid taxes on the bags of money they received under the table in the old days. My guess is zero.
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