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re: Professional sports being 'fixed' or at least influenced...
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:21 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:21 pm to Boomshockalocka
The fact that you are comparing one borderline call against the Falcons to the 5 or 6 against the saints is laughable.
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:22 pm to Boomshockalocka
Boomshockalocka playing competitive sports:
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:23 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Calls go both ways every game. It all evens out for the most part.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:25 pm to Boomshockalocka
Did they have a chance at the end of the game to win. Yes.
Did they win. No.
End of story.
Did they win. No.
End of story.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:28 pm to Boomshockalocka
Except in this game, they didn't go both ways. If there were BS calls both ways, I would not be posting about it.
ATL getting one "bad" call does not equal the calls go both ways.
And yes, even with all the blatant help by the refs, the Falcons still couldn't put away the saints. Just goes to show how shitty the dirty birds really are.
ATL getting one "bad" call does not equal the calls go both ways.
And yes, even with all the blatant help by the refs, the Falcons still couldn't put away the saints. Just goes to show how shitty the dirty birds really are.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:29 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Some calls went against ATL too. Big plays at that. You can either blame the refs and look like a lil weinie. Or say We had our chances, we gotta do better. And maintain an ounce of pride that disappears when you gotta blame the refs.
The Falcons got 9 first downs due to penalty, something that hasn't happened in the NFL in 20 years.
They also had an official added to the game that was a former Falcons player at the last minute.
Let's just say it was an odd game.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:30 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I don’t even care about who is the better team. Tbt i can’t stand to see grown men turn into crybabies and blame the ref every time their team loses. Man up. Refs didn’t decide the damn game. Brees has the ball inside the twenty and threw a pick.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:42 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Every time a team loses people are gonna blame the refs. It’s a cop out.
You obviously dont watch football. There are numerous games that are determined by a BS penalty in the waning seconds every single year.
You are delusional. I know because I used to be the same way.
I breathed Saints and NFL football year after year until I realized I was just watching Pro Wrestling on a grid iron instead of in a ring. Now my weeks and days of getting upset over a loss is long gone.
A Saints loss doesnt affect my life in the least bit , and I have the same emotion as I do with a win. It doesnt matter any more. I have autographed memorabilia in a big box that wont ever see the light of day. Im not as invested in it as I used to be because its entertainment at best. The competition is an illusion.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:44 pm to Boomshockalocka
If the refs call the game evenly the final score is 20-6 saints.
I have never posted on this site about refs before. I generally believe what you are saying. In this case, the fix was so blatant that Stevie Wonder was bitching at his TV.
I have never posted on this site about refs before. I generally believe what you are saying. In this case, the fix was so blatant that Stevie Wonder was bitching at his TV.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:50 pm to saintsfan1977
I’ll never blame the refs. Ever. Just the way I am. As a competitor you know that plays could have been made that woulda won the game whether the refs missed a couple calls or not.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 4:03 pm to Fun Bunch
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The Falcons got 9 first downs due to penalty, something that hasn't happened in the NFL in 20 years.
Penalty #1: 2nd and 2 - pass incomplete. Defensive Holding. 1st down. I like the Falcons chances of picking up a 3rd and 2.
Penalty #2: Freeman catches ball for 5 yards. Illegal hands penalty negates play and gives Falcons first down. Freeman then runs for 5 on the next play anyways. I know you can't say the same thing would have happened, but 2nd and 5 is a reasonable down and distance to figure a 1st down can be accomplished in 2 plays.
Drive with Penalties #1 and 2 results in FG.
Penalty #3: 3rd and 11 - this is the roughing the passer play. Big play on touchdown drive.
On this TD drive, the Falcons had 1st and 15 from a false start and converted without penalty. They also converted a 2nd and 20 (without penalty help) after being called for illegal block. The Falcons managed to overcome 2 penalties on this drive to help in scoring a TD.
Penalty #4: Freeman runs for 6 yards but defensive holding gives ATL first down. Again, we were at 2nd and short without the penalty and have a solid chance to continue the drive without the help of the penalty.
Penalty #5: very next play, Gabriel runs for 9 yards and we get the first down due to face mask. You can't argue this one as it was pretty blatant, but without the penalty it is still 2nd and 1.
Ryan throws an INT on this drive anyways, so those 2 penalties didn't really help us score.
Penalty #6: Falcons convert a 3rd and 1 legitimately, but decide to take the Def. Holding on Lattimore because 5 yards > 2 yards. Had no bearing on the drive.
Penalty #7: Illegal contact against NO gives Atlanta a first down after an incomplete pass on 1st and 10. Next two plays were runs of 7 and 5 so, whatever. Again, you can't say that the next two plays happen the same way given a 2nd and 10, but you also can't convince me that a penalty on 1st down negating an incomplete pass is the driving force behind Atlanta's TD on this drive.
Penalty #8: NO called for holding, giving falcons first down. This is a big play and probably affected the drive. Falcons still had to drive 43 yards to score after this. Also, this came right after an Atlanta holding call.
That's 8 plays giving the Falcons a first down. I heard there was 9, but I must have missed it when I skimmed the espn play-by-play.
Regardless, two were really big plays that either prevented a 4th down or helped overcome long yardage after the Falcons themselves were called for holding. 2 of the penalties were on a non-scoring drive. 1 was called after the Falcons got a first down anyways but they decided to take the extra 3 yards. 1 gave them first down instead of a 2nd and 1 situation. 1 gave them first down instead of 3rd and 2 situation. A couple more were first downs instead of 2nd and short/medium.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 4:06 pm to VinegarStrokes
I like how you just assume oh yea it didnt matter because we would have converted anyway. How convenient
You conveniently left out that the Saints would have gotten the ball back if not for the bullshite roughing the passer
One of the biggest, if not the biggest, penalties of the game. This was when I knew the fix was in
Our coach getting flagged to seal the game.
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Penalty #3: 3rd and 11 - this is the roughing the passer play. Big play on touchdown drive.
On this TD drive, the Falcons had 1st and 15 from a false start and converted without penalty. They also converted a 2nd and 20 (without penalty help) after being called for illegal block. The Falcons managed to overcome 2 penalties on this drive to help in scoring a TD.
You conveniently left out that the Saints would have gotten the ball back if not for the bullshite roughing the passer
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That's 8 plays giving the Falcons a first down. I heard there was 9, but I must have missed it when I skimmed the espn play-by-play.
One of the biggest, if not the biggest, penalties of the game. This was when I knew the fix was in
Our coach getting flagged to seal the game.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 4:08 pm to Boomshockalocka
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I’ll never blame the refs. Ever. Just the way I am. As a competitor you know that plays could have been made that woulda won the game whether the refs missed a couple calls or not.
Its all a stage show. Kamara goes out in the early part of the first quarter with what should have been a helmet to helmet penalty on Atlanta. He was never concussed and should have been allowed back into the game but the NFL couldnt have the most dynamic player in the game, to come back and squash the Falcons. The NFL needed Atlanta to win the game and orchestrated it.
There isnt a team in the league that can overcome game changing bad calls. I have yet to see it. I dont care how good a player or team is, a bad call will frick that team over in a heart beat.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 4:12 pm to Boomshockalocka
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And You are a ref blaming pussy. can always tell who has played competitive sports and who hasn’t.
- I’ve played competitive sports, like most who post here
- I hate saying/thinking that refs can have an impact on the outcome of a game and also hate when other fans do the same
With that being said, if you can’t acknowledge that the refs had a hand in the outcome of last Thursday’s game, then you aren’t even worth entertaining anymore on this topic
The only thing worth discussing about this IMO is whether or not it was done intentionally
Posted on 12/11/17 at 4:13 pm to saintsfan1977
Yea he was never concussed. 
He was pretty clearly staggering off the field. If you believe all this horse shite you gotta believe that the NFL fixed the super bowl for the saints the year they won it huh. Or is it only when things don’t go your way that we blame someone else.
He was pretty clearly staggering off the field. If you believe all this horse shite you gotta believe that the NFL fixed the super bowl for the saints the year they won it huh. Or is it only when things don’t go your way that we blame someone else. Posted on 12/11/17 at 4:14 pm to Jones
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I like how you just assume oh yea it didnt matter because we would have converted anyway. How convenient
I didn't assume anything. I said that they had legitimate chances to get 1st downs without the penalties.
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You conveniently left out that the Saints would have gotten the ball back if not for the bullshite roughing the passer
I didn't leave out anything. I said that it was 3rd and 11 before the penalty. I would hope that anyone with a brain can infer that this means the Falcons would have given up the ball without it. I also said that it was a huge play on the TD drive. What more do you want?
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One of the biggest, if not the biggest, penalties of the game. This was when I knew the fix was in
Our coach getting flagged to seal the game.
Without the flag, it would have been 3rd down after the fumble (3rd and 6). There was 1:05 or something left and NO had to use their 3rd timeout anyways. Let's say the Falcons take a knee (which they wouldn't). They could run off approximately 39 seconds or so and would probably call a timeout. That puts the clock at :26. The punt would probably take a good 6 seconds off the clock and put the ball at the 25 yard line for the Saints. Maybe they drive the ball 40 yards with no timeouts to get in FG range and make a 50+ yard kick to send the game into overtime. Those are all big assumptions to make. I think it's just as likely that the Falcons convert the 3rd and 6 and run the clock out anyways.
I made a pretty rationale post in response to the narrative that the Falcons were handed 9 first downs. I didn't say anything about the result of the game, the legitimacy of the penalties, etc. You chose to respond with ridiculous accusations.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 12/11/17 at 4:16 pm to Mr. Hangover
And the saints and every other team have had calls go their way that could have affected the outcome. But it’s only when peoples teams lose does the ref have any effect on the outcome. If you gonna blame the ref when you lose at least give the ref credit when you win.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 4:19 pm to Boomshockalocka
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If you gonna blame the ref when you lose at least give the ref credit when you win.
They wouldn't. Very rarely do fans say "we would have lost if not for the refs." They would do what Falcons fans are doing (including myself):
1) taunt the other fanbase for crying
2) taunt the other fanbase for losing
3) try and rationalize the plays/calls that the other fans are bitching about.
For anyone, regardless of team affiliation, to claim otherwise is just being hypocritical, and I full acknowledge that I have done all 3 of the things I mentioned
Posted on 12/11/17 at 4:20 pm to VinegarStrokes
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I like the Falcons chances of picking up a 3rd and 2.
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but 2nd and 5 is a reasonable down and distance to figure a 1st down can be accomplished in 2 plays.
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Again, we were at 2nd and short without the penalty and have a solid chance to continue the drive without the help of the penalty.
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but without the penalty it is still 2nd and 1.
lol
Posted on 12/11/17 at 4:23 pm to Jones
Those are not "assumptions". If you think they are, then I don't know what to tell you. Even if they were, to assume that the Falcons couldn't pick up those manageable first downs is just as bad.
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