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re: Professional sports being 'fixed' or at least influenced...
Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:53 am to LakeViewLSU
Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:53 am to LakeViewLSU
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Posted on 12/10/17 at 8:59 am to LakeViewLSU
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Kamara didn’t even have a concussion. He was cleared by team doctors in the first quarter. The league held him out the rest of the game.
There was a reason that the league took the decision out of the team doctors hands, and it's not to fix games
You have to assume so many things and have to have so many conspirators to successfully rig a game for gambling purposes. There's just no way it's a uniform process like you're suggesting. Not to mention books have different lines, and 10-50 different types of bets to bet on each different game, it's impossible for them to fix it all in a perfect way like you think
And if you truly believe it is rigged like this, then you should just live bet and make a fortune
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:03 am to supadave3
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Second, let me take you back to around 2001 or so. I was in a crowded dance club with my friend Mike,
Sounds lit bro
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:09 am to cascadia
I'm sorry you read slower than my boy Simple Jack.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:14 am to supadave3
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the number one goal of professional sports is and always has been to make money.
Trying not to be a homer, but take the Saints/Lions game earlier this season. Saints dominated every facet of that game in the first half. Well on the way to a blowout. One of the shortest halves of football I’ve ever seen. IIRC first half ended at like 1:20.
Then it was like the Saints completely forgot the rules of the game in the second half. Drives extended by penalty. Hell they called consecutive IP penalties on a damn XP attempt. It was 4:30 before the game ended. The officials impacted the play in the second half by suddenly becoming keenly aware of every hand placement by the Saints defense. The game ended up insanely closer than it ever should have been.
Now if it weren’t for the disparity in the way the game was called from half to half I could see this argument as being overblown. But it turned a blowout into a close game, and that doesn’t happen without influence from the officiating crew.
I mean we love to hate on the SEC refs at LSU especially when it comes to Bama and get laughed at. Then you look at the statistical improbablity of the number of holding calls against Bama vs the rest of the league and you start to wonder.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:38 am to elprez00
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mean we love to hate on the SEC refs at LSU especially when it comes to Bama and get laughed at. Then you look at the statistical improbablity of the number of holding calls against Bama vs the rest of the league and you start to wonder.
Say, what are those numbers anyway? Thanks.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:23 am to McCaigBro69
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Regardless, the Saints game is a horrible example.
The Falcons got NINE first downs from penalties and the league kept the Saints best player out the game after halfway through the opening drive.
Why is this a horrible example? Why weren't they so diligent when Russell Wilson was injured a few weeks ago?
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 10:57 am
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:33 am to windshieldman
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I think the ref crew just dislikes Payton
I was thinking about this, too. It’s the only plausible explanation I can think of besides fixing. Even then it’s not good.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:49 am to Undertow
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I was thinking about this, too. It’s the only plausible explanation I can think of besides fixing. Even then it’s not good.
We are talking about a league that suspended Payton in Brees' prime because he didn't kiss the ring and they couldn't bust him for Vicodin.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:52 am to lsutigers1992
I won't go as far as to say professional sports is fixed, but it's much closer to sports entertainment than actual sports than most realize.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:55 am to supadave3
It’s an excuse made by the losing side bc they can’t accept losing. Ever hear the winning squad say we won because the game was fixed? Nothing worse than someone who blames the refs EVERY time his squad loses.
Nothing worse than someone who blames the refs EVERY time his squad loses. Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:58 am to Gator5220
Do you believe games are mostly fixed when they have significance to the bigger picture? For example, when its two teams playing outside of the playoff picture in December...
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:00 am to supadave3
Well I would think the league would have wanted the saints to win. Giving the Cowboys a better chance at making the playoffs
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:00 am to Boomshockalocka
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It’s an excuse made by the losing side bc they can’t accept losing. Ever hear the winning squad say we won because the game was fixed? Nothing worse than someone who blames the refs EVERY time his squad loses.
Payton has called the refs out several times over the years after a win. This is the first I’ve seen him do it after a loss, and there have been much worse losses than this in the past.
ETA: I don’t believe it was a fix, I believe it was just awful refs being awful at their jobs, for the entire game
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:01 am to lsutigers1992
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he Falcons got NINE first downs from penalties and the league kept the Saints best player out the game after halfway through the opening drive.
Why is this a horrible example? Why weren't they so diligent when Russell Wilson was injured a few weeks ago?
And Brees was a play away from winning the game. That is a pretty sad attempt to fix a game
You guys do know it’s possible for one team to have more penalties than the other without the game being fixed, right?
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:02 am to Boomshockalocka
The Falcons' first TD drive was extended because of a bogus roughing penalty, and they took 3 Saints points off the board at halftime because of a penalty that is never called unless you are deliberately looking for it and trying end the half on a technicality.
Make your own decisions.
Make your own decisions.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:03 am to chalmetteowl
Professional sports are first and foremost a business, and competition, or the appearance of competition, keeps fans interested.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:05 am to lsutigers1992
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first TD drive was extended because of a bogus roughing penalty
It was a bad call but Ryan ended up on the ground. It wasn’t unusual that ended up being a penalty in today’s nfl
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and they took 3 Saints points off the board at halftime because of a penalty that is never called unless you are deliberately looking for it a
Right call. shite I think that has been called on the saints this year actually. When you have a backup who is never on FG’s replacing Kelemete it’s not out of the ordinary that he lines up wrong
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and trying end the half on a technicality.
Or that’s the rule
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:07 am to lsutigers1992
Ivw seen flags thrown for roughing the passer from a finger nail scratch on the side of the qb helmet. it doesn’t take much at all to get the flag thrown.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:08 am to lsutigers1992
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Make your own decisions.
The FG before half was bogus and quite a few analysts or whatever you call them have come out and said so, especially being called on one of the guys towards the edge.
The roughing the passer sucked but you see tick tacky calls like that
The call on Greg Robertson you don't see called. Tackled a RB on a screen at line of scrimmage prior to the QB even throwing the ball. He was tackled basically next to the C and G.
At least half the calls in the secondary were tick tacky. My only thing is you need to be consistent with both teams if you are gonna be tick tacky. Again, the game wasn't fixed, it was just an awful job by the refs.
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