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re: Preview of the guardian cap 2.0

Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:09 am to
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:09 am to
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You always look to call someone out but really bring nothing to the conversation.
read your original message again.
Maybe it comes out that they're just as ineffective as the original. But you can't say one guy wearing it got a concussion and then conclude that means they're just for show.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70427 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:13 am to
Definitely looks less like toad from Mario than the original
Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
Dixie
Member since Jul 2013
4969 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:16 am to
Well, it’s been more than one guy. If you follow the league you know it stems more from the concussion lawsuit and not player safety. If they truly cared about player safety, would they be playing games with only 3 days off? Wouldn’t anyone that’s been in concussion protocol be mandated to wear the guardian cap? Or maybe even guardian caps required across the board?
Posted by migui8618
Member since Nov 2023
595 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:45 am to
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Just go back to the leather caps


I'm in. Take away the weapon. No one spears ever again, if they do, they need to learn to walk again. Make them wear the stupid cap the 7 v 7 kids wear.
Posted by 4quartaBamaball
Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Nov 2015
1773 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:19 am to
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Just play and watch rugby


You like watching field goals?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 11:12 am to
It's not mandated.
The data says there's a chance, they may reduce concussions and trauma.
Who gives a frick if someone wants to wear it? Here we are again, trying to tell people what to do. If my career is on average 10 years and maybe something I wear can lead to less physical detriment afterwards, you bet I'd do it.

Did yal have such an issue with the q collar and the neck rolls when players wore them? FOH
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
23548 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 11:50 am to
Original guardian cap

Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
99512 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Did yal have such an issue with the q collar and the neck rolls when players wore them? FOH


No because they looked cool
Posted by lsubuddy
houma, la
Member since Jul 2014
4926 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 12:24 pm to
Can't the tech just go into the helmets? Gotta have the $$$ grab of a guardian cap ?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
70874 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 12:30 pm to
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You would have a point if they said this would stop concussions altogether.

There have been published studies done that show they don't reduce concussions at all

This is from the National Library of Medicine

LINK

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Purpose
The objective of this study is to present preliminary on-field head kinematics data for NCAA Division I American football players through closely matched pre-season workouts both with and without Guardian Caps (GCs).

Methods
42 NCAA Division I American football players wore instrumented mouthguards (iMMs) for 6 closely matched workouts, 3 in traditional helmets (PRE) and 3 with GCs (POST) affixed to the exterior of their helmets. This includes 7 players who had consistent data through all workouts.

Results
There was no significant difference between the collapsed mean values for the entire sample between PRE and POST for peak linear acceleration (PLA) (PRE=16.3±2.0, POST=17.2±3.3Gs; p=0.20), Peak Angular Acceleration (PAA) (PRE=992.1±209.2, POST=1029.4±261.1rad/s2; p=0.51 and the total amount of impacts (PRE=9.3±4.7, POST=9.7±5.7; p=0.72). Similarly, no difference was observed between PRE and POST for PLA (PRE=16.1±1.2, POST=17.2±2.79Gs; p=0.32), PAA (PRE=951.2±95.4, POST=1038.0±166.8rad/s2; p=0.29 and total impacts (PRE=9.6±4.2, POST=9.7±5.04s; p=0.32) between sessions for the7 repeated players.

Conclusion
These data suggest no difference in head kinematics data (PLA, PAA and total impacts) when GCs are worn. This study suggests GCs are not effective in reducing the magnitude of head impacts experienced by NCAA Division I American football players.

Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17321 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 1:00 pm to
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Just play and watch rugby


You like watching field goals?

I believe the top rugby tournaments now average more tries per game than the NFL has touchdowns per game.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31823 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 1:00 pm to
Didn't realize fashion was such a big deal for the so called masculine men who enjoy football.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53383 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 1:08 pm to
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Just play and watch rugby. Let football die.


You go root for the NOLA Gold. I’ll root for the Saints
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38499 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:30 pm to
Just roll all the safety rules back to the 80s. Then make the first lines of the CBA:

"If you play football in the NFL you will end up a spit-dribbling idiot. But, if you want the money, the pussy, fame, the pussy, the acclaim and the pussy; sign below."


Who gives a shite about concussions? I don't. And you don't, either. I honestly don't care if they have to bury bodies in slit trenches filled with lime after every game. Bring back the violence*.








*Are we ready to agree at this point the whole CTE thing has been massively overblown? Or are we still buying that hack Nigerian doctor's load of crap?
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2606 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 5:07 pm to
Seems like a very small sample size...

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 6:04 pm to
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*Are we ready to agree at this point the whole CTE thing has been massively overblown


Ask Junior Seau's family if it's overblown

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quote:

Who gives a shite about concussions? I don't. And you don't, either. I honestly don't care if they have to bury bodies in slit trenches filled with lime after every game.


quote:

SoFla Tideroller

You ate one too many crayons in The Corps.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 5:42 am to
Can you cite a source or are we just supposed to accept your conclusions with no data or source?
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9508 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:30 am to
Buy a hat for your hat, bro.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14781 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 8:14 am to
I think these are great, even if you don't wear in games and only in practice. I know not all programs can afford these, but think if all the head shots or falling back players take from middle school - high school. I know I got "dinged" a dozen times from 7th - 12th grade. Sometimes I sat out a play, and sometimes I shook the cobwebs out and lined up.
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