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re: PGA Golfer Grayson Murray 30, dies after withdrawing from tournament

Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:51 am to
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:51 am to
This is so sad.

I’m not sure I remember a pro athlete going and killing themself after an event. I mean clearly he had a history and bigger problems than a back 9 meltdown, but the way it all played out is dramatic.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:51 am to
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I do find it a little weird that his fiancée wasn’t mentioned by name.


I also thought that
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6156 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:51 am to
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And the Tour still doesn’t care to change and support its players. It’s the reason why half the top 20 is on another tour right now. The PGA Commish is an enormous, arrogant, flippant, POS that only cares about himself and not about the physical or mental well being of the players..


lol. What a terrible take.

LIV players left for the money. Period.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45656 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:56 am to
I think they were actually supposed to be married at the end of April, so I feel like something had to happen there.

A buddy of mine committed suicide after his girlfriend broke up with him in college. You feel for the family in the situation, but you also really feel for the significant other because they place unnecessary blame on themselves.

Again, that’s all speculation but I really hope she’s going to be ok.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:03 am to
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& way off topic. Believe u said at one time u’re from Shelby. I also. You know the Dentons. Just ignore if I’ve got this all wrong. THNX.
Talking about Lynn and John and Pat?
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:05 am to
Now that the family announced what all rational people knew happened, how many vax retards will come back to this thread to apologize for their ignorance? I’m guessing zero.

They’ll be back speculating in the next thread of someone who dies though. Pieces of shite.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:06 am to
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how many vax retards will come back to this thread to apologize for their ignorance?
How many of them were in here to begin with?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11033 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:12 am to
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The PGA might be worse suited than most professional sports organizations to do anything about mental health. You have to both have access to, and really, really, like golf to even start getting into it.


True, the PGA has always been the most "you are on your own" major sport. In tennis the players basically have "teams" of coaches, family, advisors, and hanger-ons. This does not exist in golf. I know a guy who played up to the Korn Ferry tour. You are basically on your own even more there. You load up your clubs in the trunk or back and drive across the country paying your own way and hoping to sleep on friends couches and try to get as many free meals at tournaments as possible.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:15 am to
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How many of them were in here to begin with?

Five.

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Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112646 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:20 am to
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“Why was I drunk? Because I’m a f—ing alcoholic that hates everything to do with the PGA Tour life and that’s my scapegoat.”
So if the PGA decided the best thing for him was to never be allowed on tour again, would he have thanked them for helping him or would he have complained they kicked him out and didn't care about him?

Based on his response, seems the best thing for him would have been to avoid playing on the tour.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72028 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:23 am to
As someone who has struggled with mental health at times in my life, you have to take what he is saying with a grain of salt.

He’s struggling and he doesn’t know how to make it better and was simply lashing out. It’s common.

And for people saying he should have just quit, it was how he earned his living. And he very well likely wanted to be like everyone else and get his mental health on track so that he could enjoy playing golf again.

Depressed people, and certainly addicts, tend to have misplaced anger and blame.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:24 am to
Oh boy

I’ll need to edit
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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89078 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:26 am to
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Depressed people, and certainly addicts, tend to have misplaced anger and blame.
How does one help someone in this situation?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:29 am to
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This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 8:50 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
89078 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:29 am to
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Five
Oh.

Yeah that’s a bit much.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4991 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:17 pm to
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I’m not sure I remember a pro athlete going and killing themself after an event.



LINK

Also, a very good player for the Cleveland Indians in the late 1960s and early 1970s, Tony Horton, tried to but was unsuccessful. He had mental health issues and was told that the only way to deal with those issues was to completely sever any connection with baseball, which he did.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23450 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:22 pm to
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I do find it a little weird that his fiancée wasn’t mentioned by name.


I wouldn’t say it’s weird as much as it’s telling. If she was that close to the parents like most fiancé’s would be in a happy marriage, then she is likely mentioned in the top. Given the fact it’s not, my guess is that they had a rocky relationship.

The guy brought a playmate to Augusta, was an alcoholic, and unfortunately had other demons. It’s unfortunate but he was a hot fricking mess.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
129674 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:27 pm to
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They’ll be back speculating in the next thread of someone who dies though. Pieces of shite.


Oh dont worry.

Strannix already scoured the internet to find a possible one to overshadow this thread
Posted by OsagecatZ
Member since May 2024
383 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 2:33 pm to
OMG Pat’s Dad lost his hand in the gin knives.
Pat dated my Sis. Then married Lucy Coleman(HOT OMG;).
Jimmy is the Denton I’m looking for. Will’s son.
Well met. ;)
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
2191 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 7:41 pm to
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