re: PGA Golfer Grayson Murray 30, dies after withdrawing from tournament

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Where did you see that?

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Don’t know who this guy is or if he is credible but he posted it not long after the news broke.

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The tour has been very consistent throughout the years that they only care about players when it’s a star, a potential star or when one embarrasses them ..

That doesn’t mean this is their responsibility but if it was Rory with his recent news and a player thought the tour should check on him, I’d be willing to bet anything they’d be all over it….

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Why is that the Tour's responsibility?

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I don’t necessarily think it is. Was just speaking to his specific past with depression and alcoholism. I probably could have phrased that better

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The PGA might be worse suited than most professional sports organizations to do anything about mental health. You have to both have access to, and really, really, like golf to even start getting into it.

If you’re a 6’9” Sophomore in high school, the basketball coach is flat out begging you to join the team - no matter what your interest is in the sport, or whether you’ve even touched a basketball in your life.

If you’re the fastest kid in 8th grade gym class, high school football coaches are going to be in your ear at the finish line. It doesn’t matter if you like football or not.

In Eastern Europe, hockey and basketball can be seen as a “get out of poverty” ticket. Same as baseball in Latin America.

Outside or potential parental pressure, I can’t imagine a golf version of those. It’s easier for me to see athletes in some other sports failing upward, despite mental instability, due to skating by on sheer athleticism until the exact moment they can’t.

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the edge of out of control.

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He was clearly out of control and admitted as much when talking openly about his alcoholism

Please try to not turn this into a LIV / PGA debate.


Neither tour is run by mental health professionals. The most jay monahan or Greg Norman can do is help these guys get in touch with actual professionals and hope the players get help.

Your posts are complete nonsense and I’d say the same if it was a LIV player in this position.

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This wouldn’t be the 1st time the PGA Tour blatantly disregarded the well being of players on their tour.

The LIV Tour was created due to the PGA Tour not being very player, human, or family friendly. The commissioner does not really respect the players and that’s why we have another golf tour and a dead pga golfer right now.

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I hope this is a troll attempt...

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Youre right The government response to covid exacerbated a lot of mental health issues

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I think the constant connectivity of social media probably harder on people than even Covid was. Think the response just caused even more time in front of screens and less time together.

Like I said above, I think the only responsibility the PGA Tour or any other sports organization should rightfully have in a situation like this is to facilitate an athlete getting help if he or she seeks it. Doing welfare checks is something friends and family should handle.

Honestly, could anyone have done anything to prevent what appears to have happened? (No one knows with certainty yet.) Sadly, probably not.

It just sucks man. I got sober in June of 2020 and have had a few brutal relapses along the way. I got a little over a year under me now and some days I have to take a different way home so I don't stop at a liquor store. Can't walk through the beer aisle at a grocery store. Just feel it in my frickin bones. I don't know. Wherever he is hope he has finally found some peace.