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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST

Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:03 pm to
CBSChicago writer
LINK

quote:

Football Operations

Suspension of Football operations for 1 year to facilitate all transfers.

Special dispensation will allow players not to count against
scholarship numbers of acquiring teams.

Reduction of scholarships by 8 for 5 years beginning in 2014

Beginning in 2014, option to field team in Division 1AA, or
secondary sub division.

Records from 1998 will be vacated.

Financial

Ticket revenue offset payout given to scheduled opponents
for 2012 season to compensate for no games.

No Television until 2015.

Bowl Ban until 2015.

No scholarships for 2013.

Current roster allowed to transfer without penalty.

Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21056 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:06 pm to
I thought they said no death penalty?
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22944 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:08 pm to
In the late 90s, didn't Outside the Lines or some other investigative outlet do a show on JoePa covering up brawls, rapes, drug dealing & using, etc, by Penn State football players?

If that was indeed the case & JoePa covered up for Sandusky & who knows how many transgressions over the years for former players, then the Nittany Lion football program deserved to get hit with major penalties.

The cover up of child molester is as bad as it gets but who knows how many college girls were sexually assaulted or people physically assaulted over they years by football players only to have it covered up by the "Penn State Pope".
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:08 pm to
It's probably a fake leak anyway. It's not called I-AA anymore, unlikely a reporter or anyone else with access to info would refer to it as such.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37159 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:10 pm to
taking them down to 1-AA, damn that would be something...

owlie, if what you and volfan have posted is accurate, this is worse than the death penalty....

i wonder how they handle the eligibility issues?

then the issue of how these football players will be treated when/if they transfer...
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62649 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:12 pm to
"Worse than the death penalty" is what we've heard from the beginning.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21056 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:13 pm to
I honestly think that if they do get the death penalty, they shouldn't receive any sanctions afterwards. Let them start over.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31140 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:17 pm to
I question that leak because I don't think they would allow the new school to go over its limit of 85 if they accept a transfer from Penn State. I guess maybe it makes more sense if it's just for this season, and then they would have to be back to the limit for next year...but it seems like a bad idea to me.

But the 30-60 million figure being thrown around probably makes sense if the bowl and TV ban is that long.
Posted by Daigeaux
Mountains of East Tennessee
Member since Jul 2005
6065 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:17 pm to
1-AA in a 110,000 seat stadium.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196917 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:17 pm to
As I understand it

quote:

taking them down to 1-AA, damn that would be something...
that is PSUs option

quote:

i wonder how they handle the eligibility issues?
all players are allowed to transfer immediately,, and without restriction on them or the U they transfer to,,
theyre are a few on some radars already, dont ask me how I know
quote:

then the issue of how these football players will be treated when/if they transfer...
like victims heros if they can contribute right away


theres also some talk of extending eligibilty for seniors,, give em ALL one extra year


and for those that dont tranfer they still have full rides at PennState
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

I honestly think that if they do get the death penalty, they shouldn't receive any sanctions afterwards. Let them start over.


Agree. 2 year death penalty would clean house completely. Let them start over as a new program fresh after that.
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18290 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:21 pm to
They should get the death penalty. Too many people involved. Think of the number of victims and what was done to them.

Is it fair to current players? Probably not, but the same thing happens when other schools are put on major probation - it usually occurs after the players/coaches involved are gone.

Penn State football is ruined for a long time. They should close it down for a few years.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196917 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

I question that leak because I don't think they would allow the new school to go over its limit of 85 if they accept a transfer from Penn State. I guess maybe it makes more sense if it's just for this season, and then they would have to be back to the limit for next year...but it seems like a bad idea to me.
temporary and the only equitable solution for the current players and commits

Urban Myer is ALL over it already
so if Pitt


Rice might pick up a couple of O linemen and a kicker that are from the area,, good news for them they start right away
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65529 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:22 pm to
No way the punishment is that severe. That's not a death penalty, that's a Holocaust.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37159 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:23 pm to
owlie, do you think there would be limits on how many could go to a particular school?
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80601 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

quote:
Football Operations

Suspension of Football operations for 1 year to facilitate all transfers.

Special dispensation will allow players not to count against
scholarship numbers of acquiring teams.

Reduction of scholarships by 8 for 5 years beginning in 2014

Beginning in 2014, option to field team in Division 1AA, or
secondary sub division.

Records from 1998 will be vacated.

Financial

Ticket revenue offset payout given to scheduled opponents
for 2012 season to compensate for no games.

No Television until 2015.

Bowl Ban until 2015.

No scholarships for 2013.

Current roster allowed to transfer without penalty.

This is fake.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65529 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

Urban Meyer is all over it


I really don't like that dude. He's such a phony.
Posted by TemplarTheSaint
The Vatican
Member since Oct 2011
704 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:26 pm to
Big 10 folks starting to speak out as well - LINK

quote:

The NCAA and Big Ten have been exploring options after independent investigator Louis Freeh said top Penn State officials - including former football coach Joe Paterno - "concealed" what they knew about sexual abuse on young boys by former football assistant coach Jerry Sandusky. Possible punishments could include suspending the football program, a bowl ban, scholarship reduction, and redistributing the school's conference revenue.


Univ. of Iowa President Sally Mason
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:29 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 11:44 pm
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
11368 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

Suspension of Football operations for 1 year to facilitate all transfers


Am I missing something or isnt that tantamount to a "death penalty"?

I thought rumors were that was off the table.
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