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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:04 pm to Rocket
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:04 pm to Rocket
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Supposedly PSU doesn't plan to appeal
Maybe this is what Emmert is banking on. Perhaps the PR of an appeal would be so bad for PSU that Emmert has free reign to do anything he wants, regardless of the NCAA procedures he breaks in doing so.
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:04 pm to Monticello
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Emmert just wants to get a chunk of the money for his own organization
Money isn't going to NCAA
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:05 pm to Monticello
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If true that is complete bull shite. PSU will be hit with hundreds of millions in damages in the pending litigation. Emmert just wants to get a chunk of the money for his own organization. Give them the death penalty, but at least give them due process, an opportunity to be heard, and don't try to profit from it.
The NCAA found the Freeh report to be "actionable." You understand that the 14th amendment doesn't apply to PSU in an NCAA action right? You sound like an idiot talking about due process in this situation.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:06 pm to Rocket
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Money isn't going to NCAA
Who then? Ordering it go to charities?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:08 pm to Monticello
quote:something like that
Ordering it go to charities?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:10 pm to Monticello
quote:yes,,specifically charities that help child abuse victims,, as I understand it about a 50-50 split between Pennsylvania based and national based
Who then? Ordering it go to charities?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:11 pm to tigerpimpbot
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You understand that the 14th amendment doesn't apply to PSU in an NCAA action right? You sound like an idiot talking about due process in this situation.
You taken constitutional law or administrative law? It's not always clear cut, but when private companies, universities, or governing bodies do not follow their own published procedures, the case is actionable.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:14 pm to Monticello
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You taken constitutional law or administrative law? It's not always clear cut, but when private companies, universities, or governing bodies do not follow their own published procedures, the case is actionable.
Is that why they've decided not to appeal?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:14 pm to genro
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I suspect this isn't just based on the Freeh report. I suspect the NCAA has been investigating since the beginning, has much of their own information, and was just waiting for the Freeh.
I think Emmert first publicly commented on looking at PSU last November. It's not like he just heard about this today.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:16 pm to tigerpimpbot
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Is that why they've decided not to appeal?
Yea...let's wait and see if they end up appealing or not. If they don't appeal, I can promise it is because they want to avoid the bad PR of an appeal, not because they have no case.
FWIW, I hope they get the death penalty. There is no more deserving case in history. But I want it done right. I'm curious to hear Emmert explain what NCAA bylaw was broken and what authority he has to issue these punishments and circumvent the committee on infractions.
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:19 pm to PowerTool
The trial testimony of McQuery alone is enough to prove there was a cover up. I assume that the Grand Jury testimonies, Freeh report, FBI investigation and so forth are all more than enough to prove without a reasonable doubt that PSU is at fault and violated NCAA regulations.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:19 pm to Monticello
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You taken constitutional law or administrative law? It's not always clear cut, but when private companies, universities, or governing bodies do not follow their own published procedures, the case is actionable.
The NCAA is following their own procedures.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:23 pm to TemplarTheSaint
Rearrange these letters: AENOPRT
a. PATERNO
b. NOT RAPE
c. All of the above
a. PATERNO
b. NOT RAPE
c. All of the above
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:24 pm to Monticello
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But I want it done right. I'm curious to hear Emmert explain what NCAA bylaw was broken and what authority he has to issue these punishments and circumvent the committee on infractions.
I believe Emmert said he was given the authority by the committee under the by laws to mete out punishment as he sees fit. It's unprecedented, but legal (I think).
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:31 pm to tigerpimpbot
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I believe Emmert said he was given the authority by the committee under the by laws to mete out punishment as he sees fit. It's unprecedented, but legal (I think).
It's certainly risky. I hope the NCAA attorneys have done their jobs. I agree that this punishment needs to be implemented before the season if at all possible so the innocent players can transfer and innocent recruits don't end up in a bad situation.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:38 pm to Monticello
The NCAA committee has its turnover this Aug,,
All of this has been run past the current and incoming board( not full turnover)
the NCAA is committed to enforcing this decision,, if PSU appeals they will be voted out of the NCAA in Jan.
thats the hammer the NCAA has and they've made it clear to PSU they will use it,,
requires a 2/3 vote
All of this has been run past the current and incoming board( not full turnover)
the NCAA is committed to enforcing this decision,, if PSU appeals they will be voted out of the NCAA in Jan.
thats the hammer the NCAA has and they've made it clear to PSU they will use it,,
requires a 2/3 vote
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:39 pm to Monticello
I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried to burn down the Joe Paterno library.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:41 pm to Srbtiger06
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Are you telling me that he never coerced the local police to not pursue Penn St players involved in brawls, public drukeness, illegal drug use, etc?
Are you assuming no other big name college coach has that kind of power?
Are you assuming he actually did that?
Lots of assuming there.
This is for you Srbtiger06
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"The coach was literally telling his players that they couldn't cooperate with judicial affairs or they would get kicked off the team. So we were going nowhere in getting to the bottom of things," Triponey said. "I said to the coach, 'This would be so much easier if you would tell your players just to tell the truth.' He was livid, and the message to me was, 'I can't do that. They have to play for me and I can't ask them to rat on each other.' The president also chimed in and said, 'Vicky, the coach is right. We can't expect the players to tell the truth.' So that's the environment that was underlying this whole debate about who's in charge."
Football won. "The sanctions that were issued were nowhere near being in line what the code required for the severity of the offenses," Triponey said.
As a result of the school's inquiry, four key players were expelled for summer semester but were allowed to return early for the start of fall practice. Fifteen players were found to have committed violations. Paterno disciplined the entire team by making them clean up a section of Beaver Stadium the morning after a few home games.
Britt said the school's handling of the case showed who was in charge. "The highest official in State College, Pa., is Joe Paterno. I don't care what anybody else's title is, he ran the show up there. And he knew about everything. There's no doubt in anybody's mind that it all comes back to JoePa," Britt said. "I got this from the (police) officers I dealt with. Basically they said it's a nightmare, any case that involves the football team."
LINK
Posted on 7/22/12 at 8:44 pm to Choupique19
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This is for you Srbtiger06
BOOM
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:02 pm to SanFranTiger
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She blames the media for everything
kill the messenger syndrome. politicians do it all the time to defect blame and many stupid people buy in.
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