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Ole Miss should be in if SMU wins ACC. USC is also more deserving than Bama.

Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:51 am
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29370 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:51 am
These are the teams that should be in. This is not a projected final ranking, just a list of 12:

1. Texas/UGA Winner
2. Oregon/PSU winner
3. Clemson/SMU winner
4. ASU/Iowa State winner
5. Boise/UNLV winner, possibly Tulane if UNLV wins.
6. Oregon/PSU loser
7. UGA/Texas loser
8. Tennessee
9. Indiana
10. Notre Dame
11. If SMU loses, at least somewhat respectably, SMU.
12. Ohio State

If SMU wins ACC CG or possibly if SMU loses by 3+ scores dropping SMU out of top 12:
12. Ole Miss

Both Ole Miss and USC deserve to be ahead of Bama.

Bama
Lost to a mediocre Vandy and OU. Lost to OU by 21 points.
Did beat USC, but only by 2 points at home.

Ole Miss
Won @ USC 27-3
1 loss was in OT @ LSU, 1 loss was a one-score game @ UF, and their worst loss was by a FG to UK.
Beat UGA by 18 (Bama beat UGA by a TD)

USC
Ending season on a 6 game win streak with final game a win @ #12 Clemson.
Lost by only 2 to Bama and only 3 to LSU.


All 3 teams have a top 10 strength of schedule.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 11:38 am
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:58 am to
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3. Clemson/SMU winner
4. ASU/Iowa State winner


This is why the whole set-up is a joke. None of those 4 teams remotely deserve a top 4 seed.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:59 am to
1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. Georgia
4. Notre Dame
5. Tennessee
6. Penn St
7. SMU
8. Boise
9. Alabama
10. Ole Miss
11. South Carolina
12. Ohio St
Posted by witty alias
Member since Nov 2012
1622 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:00 am to
If they win their conference they do. That’s how sports work.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
12887 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:01 am to
The annual Jon Ham pot stirring playoff pick thread has arrived
Posted by 420
Member since Nov 2024
113 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:01 am to
The only way South Catolina gets in is if Bama and Ole Miss do too. I don't see the committee jumping South Carolina over 2 of the 3 teams that beat them
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29370 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:01 am to
Crap, I forgot about Ohio State.

OP revised accordingly.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 11:04 am
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
35237 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:02 am to
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If they win their conference they do. That’s how sports work.


Ever watch the NCAA basektball tournament? Plenty of non-league champions get seeded above league champions.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:02 am to
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This is why the whole set-up is a joke. None of those 4 teams remotely deserve a top 4 seed.


Winning your conference has to count for something.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
49682 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:03 am to
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3. Clemson/SMU winner 4. ASU/Iowa State winner This is why the whole set-up is a joke. None of those 4 teams remotely deserve a top 4 seed.


I agree. The conference winner should get in but shouldn’t be guaranteed a top 4 seed.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
15073 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:04 am to
is this a troll post?
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
49682 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:04 am to
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Winning your conference has to count for something.


It should get you in that’s all it should guarantee. The fact Boise might get a bye is a joke.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
20633 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:06 am to
lol Tulane has no bidness in
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29370 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:07 am to
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The only way South Catolina gets in is if Bama and Ole Miss do too. I don't see the committee jumping South Carolina over 2 of the 3 teams that beat them


USC is ending its season on a 6 game win streak. Bama lost to OU last week by 21. Bama’s win over USC was only by 2 points @ Bama.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29370 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:12 am to
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The annual Jon Ham pot stirring playoff pick thread has arrived


I’ve been accused of being pro-Bama in the past during these discussions. This should put that to rest. Bama has a higher rated SOS and a win over USC. If I was pro-Bama I could easily argue them over USC.
Posted by 420
Member since Nov 2024
113 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:19 am to
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USC is ending its season on a 6 game win streak. Bama lost to OU last week by 21. Bama’s win over USC was only by 2 points @ Bama.


Bama also beat Georgia who stomped South Carolina's best win by 30. Bottom line, there is no chance that the committee puts in a team that lost to Alabama and has the same record as Alabama in the playoffs instead of Alabama. There is just no way.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29370 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:32 am to
Ole Miss should have entered this week ahead of Bama but since Ole Miss entered the week behind Bama and the final games they played shouldn’t move the needle, Bama is likely staying ahead of Ole Miss, which again, is wrong.

USC is the only team of these 3 that you can say moved the needle in their final game by winning @ Clemson. Is that win enough to jump two teams who both beat USC? I think it should be enough for USC to jump Bama, but then that means they also have to jump Ole Miss which is much more difficult to justify.

Both Ole Miss and USC would deserve that 12 spot over Bama should it come open.
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
1005 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:33 am to
Carolina was dominating LSU and lost Sellers during towards the end of the game.

Wouldn’t be a discussion if Carolina didn’t lose.

LSU would rather play Ole Miss again than Carolina. Both have good defenses but Carolina was destroying LSU most of the game.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
19814 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:34 am to
quote:

they win their conference they do. That’s how sports work.

That’s how this dumb format works, not sports.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
12856 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:44 am to
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This is why the whole set-up is a joke. None of those 4 teams remotely deserve a top 4 seed.

college football fans are the only people that cry about a team getting a bye for winning their conference/division because they are in a weaker division.

we get it, you want 6 SEC teams in the playoff because they are better.

what is your reasoning for not just wanting the top 3 SEC teams in?

sometimes in the NFL one Division is stacked, they still don't pull the whole division in the playoffs. the same with baseball with the Yankees/Red Sox division in the past.

it isn't about putting all the best teams in the playoff, it's about taking the best teams from each division. 3 SEC teams is plenty, no point trying to split hairs on which 3 loss team is more deserving when there are 3 sec teams with only 1 or 2 losses
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