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re: Not a single player in the National League is hitting .300
Posted on 7/13/25 at 10:25 am to baldona
Posted on 7/13/25 at 10:25 am to baldona
I’m with you, I’d love to have seen say the White Sox just lean hard into high contact/speed while they were tanking and rebuilding and see what happens
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 7/13/25 at 10:28 am to lsufanva
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Typical analytics. As with anything, those current always believe they know better than their predecessors. The game hasn't improved due to analytics and has become less entertaining. Maybe the old guys from the past knew exactly what they were doing. New does not equal better. BA was an important stat for 150+ years yet now it means nothing.
Analytics= Mike Trout. Whole bunch of pizzazz with very little substance. Hollow numbers that won exactly nothing.
Lol
Posted on 7/13/25 at 11:13 am to West Palm Tiger561
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Not a single player in the National League is hitting .300
should have never gotten rid of the DH
Posted on 7/13/25 at 11:32 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Ty Cobb was a civil rights hero
Obviously not, but according to none other than Buck O'Neil he was nowhere near as bad as he's made out to be.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 11:37 am to lsufanva
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Typical analytics. As with anything, those current always believe they know better than their predecessors. The game hasn't improved due to analytics and has become less entertaining. Maybe the old guys from the past knew exactly what they were doing. New does not equal better. BA was an important stat for 150+ years yet now it means nothing.
Huge miss, no one is getting paid to be more entertaining, if MLB wants to change rules then they can, but players and GMs are paid to win and this is how you win. Players of yesterday hit higher average because that’s what got you paid not because it was good for the game.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 11:46 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Second basemen used to be Juan Pierre
Wait....wut?
Posted on 7/13/25 at 1:54 pm to Madking
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There isn’t any data to suggest lower averages = more runs. I don’t know how so many people have bought into that nonsense.
That’s because you don’t understand it
All Sabrmetrics is saying is OBP (on base percentage) is more important than batting avg not that lower ba leads to more runs. A player hitting.250 with a .400 OBP is more valuable than one hitting .300 with a .350 OBP
Posted on 7/13/25 at 1:56 pm to lsufanva
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As with anything, those current always believe they know better than their predecessors.
Should we give up matches and lighters and go back to rubbing 2 sticks together? Society advances by building on past knowledge not by assuming it is infallible
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:02 pm to H-Town Tiger
No, you’re just dancing around a simple fact to prove something you don’t understand.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:25 pm to WestCoastAg
madking is playing chess while mlb general mangers are playing checkers. He knows a disingenuous lie when he sees it
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:34 pm to Madking
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No, you’re just dancing around a simple fact to prove something you don’t understand.
Lmao
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:36 pm to Lester Earl
Madking still waiting around for Cashman and Boone to install that “bat handler” in the two hole for his Yanks
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:43 pm to Jcorye1
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Goodness, this is just flat out wrong. Average comes at a cost to power, and power has 100% proven to be a more efficient way of scoring.
How do you even go about proving this claim? What does hitting for "power" even mean, slugging %? Just trying to hit a HR every single at bat?
Why do we have to make baseball more complicated than it is? Every batter is different, and every at bat is different. At the end of the day, you want someone that can put the ball in play when they need to. BA is just the simplest way of beginning to demonstrate who can do that with statistics. Obviously, you would prefer to hit for more bases than less. But people aren't just stopping at first base to boost their averages just like they aren't just rounding first and only stopping when they get tagged or score.
It is a long season, players are put in countless situations, and also need to defend from the other team scoring runs to win - this leads to different roles that adjust what the goals for those stats may be. Stats tell the story, rather than predict it. And ever since the MLB has flipped that by playing to the stats, it has become more and more true.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:46 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Society advances by building on past knowledge not by assuming it is infallible
But you also mustn’t assume that present knowledge is infallible.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:47 pm to Madking
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No, you’re just dancing around a simple fact to prove something you don’t understand.
Good old Irony King describes himself thinking he’s insulting another.
Here is what you said :
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There isn’t any data to suggest lower averages = more runs. I don’t know how so many people have bought into that nonsense.
Of course no one versed in analytics would argue lower BA leads to more runs in and of itself. Thats silly. You are the one ignoring a key fact, (On Base Percentage). I’m not “dancing around” anything. I’m flat out telling you what analytics says is simply that getting on base, regardless of how, is what’s most important.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:49 pm to H-Town Tiger
Of course you are and you should stop lying about people. It makes you look weak.
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