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Noah Lyles, world champion, asks why the NBA calls themselves world champs

Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:36 am
Posted by Ingeniero
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Member since Dec 2013
21937 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:36 am
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“I have to watch the NBA Finals and they have world champion on their heads. World champion of what? The United States? Don’t get me wrong. I love the U.S. at times. But that ain’t the world...We are the world. We have almost every country out here fighting and thriving and putting on a flag to show that they are represented. There ain’t no flags in the NBA.”


Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32518 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:38 am to
Does he not realize the best player across the world come to play in the nba?
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
10045 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:39 am to
Obvious NBA/MLB/NFL are the highest level and internationally represented, but I always thought it was stupid these teams were called "world champions" - so I'm on this guy's side

Just call them champions
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15958 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:40 am to
The NBA declared themselves world champions even when there was 2 international guys playing. It’s a joke.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16693 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:41 am to
Noah Lyles should just shut up and run.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:41 am to
I have never heard of this person til just now
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7655 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:41 am to
quote:

the best player across the world come to play in the nba?


And?

He makes an extremely valid point. NBA Finals is a tournament that ends with being called a "world champion" yet it's only played in the US and Toronto. Just stick with "NBA Champion" and the conversation is done.

It's similar to calling MLB a "World Series" when it's played, again, in the US and Toronto.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6347 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:43 am to
Of course Durant feels offended
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
41687 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:43 am to
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I have never heard of this person til just now



His comments did their job.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60747 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Obvious NBA/MLB/NFL are the highest level and internationally represented, but I always thought it was stupid these teams were called "world champions"


100% this
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14398 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:46 am to
This isn’t an international competition where you represent a country. The NBA, nfl and MLB. Are the unquestioned top of the mountain in their respective sport. Don’t see to many world champion chants in soccer where there is no definitive best league coupled with international competitions in the sport represented by countries..
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32518 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:49 am to
quote:

He makes an extremely valid point. NBA Finals is a tournament that ends with being called a "world champion" yet it's only played in the US and Toronto. Just stick with "NBA Champion" and the conversation is done.


So do you feel like an international team could’ve beaten the nuggets in 7 games?

Or would you just rather the winner of the basketball Olympics be called world champs?
This post was edited on 8/28/23 at 9:51 am
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:57 am to
Had a nice ring to it. Next question.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5086 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:00 am to
He's right in a way; but it's also the dictionary definition of being pedantic and blatantly ignoring critical factors.

Sure, the NBA is a domestic league for the most part. So, if you're looking for absolute literal accuracy he might be right, but you have to ignore the fact that the worlds best players, by far, are all concentrated into that league.

There's no doubt that the Nuggets this years would handily beat any team in the world, professional or national, but they can't prove that.

He's factually correct, but his premise is moronic.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42337 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:28 am to
You have to Understand that Noah Lyles is a huge self promoter and works hard to generate talk around his social media. Looks like he succeeded.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32775 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:34 am to
He’s also coming off of doing something very rare this week.

Something that Jesse Owens did once, Carl Lewis did once, Maurice Greene did once, and Usain Bolt did six (!) times. Add Lyles and that’s the entire 100, 200, 4x100 champions club, right?

Unless I missed some guy in the 1904 Olympics
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108349 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:43 am to
So if you best all the best players on the world you can only be called world champs if a countries name is across your chest?
Posted by TexasTiger33
United States of America
Member since Feb 2022
14512 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:49 am to
make a Champions League style tournament for baseball and basketball

Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7655 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:50 am to
quote:

So do you feel like an international team could’ve beaten the nuggets in 7 games?

Is your argument "best talent in the world in one league = the right to call themselves world champs" the only thing you have? If so, the logic is flawed.

quote:

Or would you just rather the winner of the basketball Olympics be called world champs?

They're called Olympic champions...
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7655 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 10:51 am to
quote:

He's factually correct, but his premise is moronic.

It's not. A league that only plays in one country against cities within that country calling themselves "World Champions" is factually incorrect and moronic.
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