re: NIL is not free market capitalism

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I think NIL is a good thing. But combined with open transfers, it is becoming a real problem, real fast.

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But people are just freaking out because there's a lot of early randomized actions because both are shiny and new.

First, you get ONE free transfer. People are trying to make this out to be like legit free agency where guys will do this every year. If you transfer a second time, you have to sit.

Second, NIL is going to be more regulated (by the NCAA, conferences, and the market) over time. It's new and people are getting more ROI for major deals than for the players themselves. When that publicity wears off and these conversations die out, you're going to see the market adjust in a big way.

Or that the players give six s**ts about the fans.

That's why there's such weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth over this stuff. The fans who see themselves as No. 1 in the equation because they pay the bills for this stuff are seeing what they want not just marginalized but not even considered in the equation.

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I think this is more of a curtain reveal for people like you who ignorantly thought this is how the sausage was made for years.

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Not a bit. Notice I said “a nod.” I’m not naive to what’s been going on, but I believe pretending to have standards is better than just not having any at all. And by pretending to have standards you can at least keep behavior from going off the rails or destroying the actual product.

You can set parameters on a sport or any entertainment endeavor. Salary caps exist for a reason. If Olympic athletes started competing for countries only on the basis of the highest bidder would that defeat the purpose? The free market chooses based on the product, and the CFB product was based on a nod to amateurism, school pride, the student-athlete and all the other warm and fuzzy buzzwords. Was it pure? Hell no. But neither is your average Christian.

With the product we had you were at least assured that fan support had an impact on recruiting, regional support had an impact on your conference’s success, leaving a school mid-season had some repercussions so at least you de-incentivized jumping ship at the first sign of adversity. Most NFL players are proud of their alma maters.

I’m not naive to think every devout Christian is pure, but I also think Christianity is an important cultural pillar and does those impure individuals some good. Keeps some from going completely off the rails. Gives them hope.


College football was said to be different. That’s what made it the product we all loved. But these days we like to fix things that aren’t broken. At the very pinnacle of the sports success, we tinker with the BCS, implement a playoff, destroy major bowl games, make opt outs a thing, and now make players mercenaries. Don’t ever be upset about the #1 recruit in La signing a deal with Nike at Oregon on a yearly basis.

The Law of Unintended Consequences seems to be something we as a society have completely abandoned. Oh well. I enjoyed it while it lasted.

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You can set parameters on a sport or any entertainment endeavor.

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Regulations exist and will continued to be added.

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College football was said to be different.

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Only by people promoting a lie. Any real CFB fan knew that it was not different. Anyone who actually went to a school like LSU and interacted with athletes knew that it was a farce for the vast majority of the big money athletes. It's legit for the non-revenue sports for the most part, but for your football and basketball at a school like LSU? Almost never about education and mostly about dreams of going pro, with lots of illegal benefits along the way. I would get to campus on a similar schedule to Brandon Bass one year and I saw him pull up to his parking spot by the PMAC ( ) in a Merc SUV every time. I had classes with athletes who were barely literate who were "being educated" with an army of tutors clearly doing their work. This was never pure. This was never about education. Money was always being transferred. Most players only cared about their futures after college. Anyone who was a true fan knew that.

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But people are just freaking out because there's a lot of early randomized actions because both are shiny and new.

First, you get ONE free transfer. People are trying to make this out to be like legit free agency where guys will do this every year. If you transfer a second time, you have to sit.

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It essentially is free agency though when you look at it as a whole and not just 1 individual. There are what, a couple thousand players in the portal right now? That's ridiculous. And the overwhelming majority of kids in the portal are in there because they aren't happy wtih playing time. That's part of life, it's part of football. If you aren't starting by the start of your true sophomore season, oh well. Work harder or wait your turn. 18 year olds today have grown up in a social media generation where nothing is theri fault and everyone gets a trophy and everyone deserves instant gratification. And now we have given into that by telling htem "oh hey buddy you're upset you aren't starting? It's ok you can go transfer somwhere else if it'll make you happy". It's dumb.

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Second, NIL is going to be more regulated (by the NCAA, conferences, and the market) over time. It's new and people are getting more ROI for major deals than for the players themselves. When that publicity wears off and these conversations die out, you're going to see the market adjust in a big way.

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It wasn't needed in the first palce though. If people would actually sit down and think about it, they woudl see that kids have alwasy gotten 6 figures worth of compensation at their school already. Full paid tuition, free housing, free food, free gear, free medical care, free books, a monetary stipend, and a live televised audition for a potential multi-million dollar gig in a few years. The average joe student doesn't get any of that shite.

The main issue with both situations is that some beaurocrat somewhere took a minor problem affecting VERY FEW people and changed the entire rules because of it. If a kid wants or needs to transfer after his freshman year beacuse his parents are dying or something, that shoudl be an automatic green light. If a guy has already graduated and wants to transfer, go right ahead. A guy transfering because he isn't starting is bullshite. Players getting millions upon millions of dollars before they even set foot on campus is bullshite. It literally eliminates the concept of amateur athletics.

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The main issue with both situations is that some beaurocrat somewhere took a minor problem affecting VERY FEW people and changed the entire rules because of it.

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Not with NIL. That was the Supreme Court who did it b/c what the NCAA was doing was illegal.

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If a kid wants or needs to transfer after his freshman year beacuse his parents are dying or something, that shoudl be an automatic green light. If a guy has already graduated and wants to transfer, go right ahead. A guy transfering because he isn't starting is bullshite.

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Nobody has really made a good argument why it's bullshite, ESPECIALLY since you're OK with it for other reasons that aren't FB-related (like graduation).

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Players getting millions upon millions of dollars before they even set foot on campus is bullshite.

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It's their likeness. Why is it bullshite? You think the NCAA should own their likeness? Why?

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It literally eliminates the concept of amateur athletics.

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They aren't being paid a salary

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what was illegal about what he ncaa was doing? Profiting off of someone's likeness?

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Restricting the individual from profiting from their likeness.

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but if that's the case then that's pathetic. Not only for that to be "illegal" but for the government to invovle themselves in athletics period.

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It was a 9-0 decision. The government has been involved in regulating labor markets for a long, long time.

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Again, beacuse they are amateur athletes. As soon as you're paid (legally I mean, not under the table payments that have gone on since before we were born) you're a professional. It's a VERY slippery slope with legal payments that I don't think will ever have a good solution. If a guy signs posters and autographs at the spring game and gets a cut of the proceeds, I get it that's cool. If a guy gets a percentage of his jersey sales from the bookstore, that's cool. But there's no way to just list out innocent stuff lke that. It's either all or nothing, and we've chosen "all" to where you see kids being offered millions to sign with a shcool. Spare me the "likeness" bullshite. OSU paid a high shcool kid 7 figures to come play at OSU.

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OSU didn't pay him, though. A third party did.

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Players keep demanding, and owners keep outbidding each other to get the best players. This is no different.

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and why do you think owners do that?

Sec baseball proves your argument false.

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i honestly dont know what to say. These are kids who we were gonna see play for like 3 years before they move on and now they might play 2 before going somewhere else. I just dont understand the thought of this being some sport killing thing

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It’s never not amusing to see you stream of consciousness your sophomoric thought processes to explain to everyone why you are incapable of understanding simple and obvious concepts.