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NIL is not free market capitalism
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:14 pm
Regardless of your opinion on NIL or pay for play, the take that NIL is the “free market at work” is asinine.
The value of these athletes is derived from being attached to the universities they play for. Those universities, public and private, are government supported. If the universities were exclusively for-profit businesses, they would not have boosters lining up to pay athletes to play for their alma mater.
College athletics would not be immensely more popular than minor league sports if it were not irrevocably linked to institutions that receive billions in public funds. You cannot just pick out an aspect of a command economic system and say that’s the free market because that one aspect contains some free market characteristics.
If Alabama swapped rosters with Troy and LSU swapped rosters with Monroe, Alabama-LSU would still crush Troy-ULM in ratings. That disjunction between quality of play and interest would not exist in a true free market.
If these athletes’ endorsements are truly valuable, why do they only receive the deals upon signing to play college ball? NIL is more akin to political palm-greasing than a free market.
The value of these athletes is derived from being attached to the universities they play for. Those universities, public and private, are government supported. If the universities were exclusively for-profit businesses, they would not have boosters lining up to pay athletes to play for their alma mater.
College athletics would not be immensely more popular than minor league sports if it were not irrevocably linked to institutions that receive billions in public funds. You cannot just pick out an aspect of a command economic system and say that’s the free market because that one aspect contains some free market characteristics.
If Alabama swapped rosters with Troy and LSU swapped rosters with Monroe, Alabama-LSU would still crush Troy-ULM in ratings. That disjunction between quality of play and interest would not exist in a true free market.
If these athletes’ endorsements are truly valuable, why do they only receive the deals upon signing to play college ball? NIL is more akin to political palm-greasing than a free market.
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:17 pm to TomRollTideRitter
It's awful. NIL was a terrible deal, said it on day 1. Why do this? Overreaction as to the waaaaa poor athelete storyline.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:18 pm to TomRollTideRitter
wHy dO yoU haTE CapITaliSM
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:20 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Let this stuff play out a few years and then we’ll revisit. My sincere belief is that this will all sort itself out. NIL mega-deals are basically just lighting money on fire from an economic impact standpoint, and the transfer portal and high school recruiting doesn’t change the fact you can only have 85 scholarship players at time.
I understand why people hate it right now, and they may never like it, but the chaos will settle down soon enough.
I understand why people hate it right now, and they may never like it, but the chaos will settle down soon enough.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:21 pm to TomRollTideRitter
I think it simply needs to be reined in, but that's going to be really difficult. I don't even think some of these teams are using proper NIL deals, probably just money up front.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:24 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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College athletics would not be immensely more popular than minor league sports if it were not irrevocably linked to institutions that receive billions in public funds.
This.
Look at LSU vs Arkansas baseball game vs a AAA baseball game…March Madness vs the NBA D League championship game… Omaha vs the AAA “World Series”
It’s not the talent of the players it’s the schools they represent that allows them the fan base
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:25 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I think it simply needs to be reined in, but that's going to be really difficult. I don't even think some of these teams are using proper NIL deals, probably just money up front.
Like before NIL? Where cheating got LSU, Georgia, Alabama, and other top football programs to recruit top players every year? Now with NIL Mizou and other non blue blood football progams are getting some top players!
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:28 pm to TomRollTideRitter
NIL is ridiculous, but if big money guys that support these schools want to throw money at kids, that's on them. I absolutely believe that these endorsement deals will start including contracts with language protecting their investments.
That said, the free reign on transfers is a complete disaster.
That said, the free reign on transfers is a complete disaster.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:29 pm to TomRollTideRitter
We all knew this was a slippery slope
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:31 pm to RB10
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NIL is ridiculous, but if big money guys that support these schools want to throw money at kids, that's on them. I absolutely believe that these endorsement deals will start including contracts with language protecting their investments.
That said, the free reign on transfers is a complete disaster.
Because LSU is losing the battle with other schools!
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:36 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Its truly beyond me why this bothers yall
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:38 pm to Eighteen
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It’s not the talent of the players it’s the schools they represent that allows them the fan base
Yeah I think this is what’s sort of being forgotten in all this. Football is headed towards NFL light and they assume the passionate fan bases will remain as long as they slap that same logo across the helmets…I’m beginning to think otherwise.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:39 pm to TrueLefty
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Because LSU is losing the battle with other schools!
You just said LSU was paying recruits more than most other schools not 2 posts ago. Are you under the impression that all of that money is gone?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:41 pm to TomRollTideRitter
A 5* recruit is valuable because he's a future star.
And wasn't the first NIL millionaire a gymnast who already had a massive Instagram following? She didn't need the name on the front of her leotard for that.
And wasn't the first NIL millionaire a gymnast who already had a massive Instagram following? She didn't need the name on the front of her leotard for that.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:43 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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A 5* recruit is valuable because he's a future star.
Do you think the 5* who signed with JSU is going to get the same deals he'd have gotten at one of the big schools? Don't be obtuse.
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And wasn't the first NIL millionaire a gymnast who already had a massive Instagram following? She didn't need the name on the front of her leotard for that.
Are we going to pretend she had a million followers because she was a gymnast and not because she's stupidly hot?
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:47 pm to TomRollTideRitter
I think it’s hilarious that people tried to act like these kids were playing for free when other kids came out with 100k student loan debt plus they had of the art free Health care and nutrition.
It’s also not like the ncaa prevented them from making money on their NIL. They just couldn’t make money AND play for a college.
As to your point. If it was purely about the talent then the nba g league would have a big following
It’s also not like the ncaa prevented them from making money on their NIL. They just couldn’t make money AND play for a college.
As to your point. If it was purely about the talent then the nba g league would have a big following
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:48 pm to WestCoastAg
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Its truly beyond me why this bothers yall
Is it?
I am in support of it, but I can still understand why it’s frustrating to have entire teams basically quit on you. Nowadays it will be impressive if half of your signing class makes it 3-4 years. As a player, I’d want that freedom, but I’m smart enough to know fans won’t like it.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:50 pm to slackster
I guess I just view as a natural evolution of things once colleges allowed ESPN and Fox and CBS to come in and just started tossing around billions of dollars
Major college football and basketball arent amateur sport. And they havent been for a while. That honestly doesnt bother me idk
Major college football and basketball arent amateur sport. And they havent been for a while. That honestly doesnt bother me idk
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:52 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Isn’t the worth in a free market literally determined by the market? Who are you to associate a value on them?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:52 pm to WestCoastAg
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Major college football and basketball arent amateur sport. And they havent been for a while.
And they’ve been getting paid for a while.
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