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Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yep.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yet Alabama
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think the fact that they've all now grown up in the internet age has helped a lot. Coaching for kickers has always been notoriously horrible, especially at the youth stages and supposedly going right up until the pros.
Now you can at least find some technique videos and figure out where the best camps are easily and at a young age on line.
Now you can at least find some technique videos and figure out where the best camps are easily and at a young age on line.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:13 pm to bluestem75
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Time to narrow the goal posts and move them back IMO.
Raise the crossbar too
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:49 pm to VADawg
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Raise the crossbar too
Make it 50 yards high.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:04 pm to bluestem75
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Time to narrow the goal posts and move them back IMO.
FSU would have two more National Titles if the NCAA hadn't shortened the width that year of Wide Right.
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the width of the goal posts were shortened from 23 feet, 4 inches to 18 feet, 6 inches, matching the NFL width in 1991
Still it was just a 34 yard kick.
Its mind-boggling today to remember College kickers routinely miss 30 yarders in the 80s when the goalposts were almost 24 feet wide.
Posted on 10/17/22 at 1:39 am to SlickRickerz
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It’s honestly ruining the game
Winning the game on a walk-off FG is one of the most "football" outcomes there is. It's easy to argue that kicker is the second most important position in any NFL team with most point margins being a couple of points. To me seeing a kicker kick 60+ yards is just the result of countless hours honing their craft, not unlike any other position on a team.
Ruining the game? It is the game.
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 1:43 am
Posted on 10/26/22 at 2:56 am to SlowFlowPro
Saw a doc on the K-ball and how much they manipulate the ball...basically scrubbing all the pimples and hide off it and inflating it how they want.
When's the last time a kicker actually kicked with a game ball? 20 years ago? When it's 4th down, the ball on the field should be the one you kick with...not some special conditioned Nerf ball.
When's the last time a kicker actually kicked with a game ball? 20 years ago? When it's 4th down, the ball on the field should be the one you kick with...not some special conditioned Nerf ball.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 2:58 am
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:00 am to TruBrew
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High school kickers are getting ridiculous these days.
there was a kid punting for Fairhope high school in south Alabama last year that had 2 punts of over 70 yards in the same game. I hadn't heard or seen anything like that around here ever before.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:34 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The K ball is “The Duke” and it is a good kicker ball once conditioned, but those guys could kick the game ball damn near the same. I don’t think QBs want to throw a ball that someone just kicked 75 yards on the kickoff.
In high school you get to use your own kicker ball as well. My son just uses an LSU game ball, Nike Vapor Elite. It’s a regular leather ball that he’s kicked a ton of times…has one for FGs and one for kickoffs, since he has to kickoff right after kicking a FG…and he might kick it over the fence:
YouTube, last Friday
Sophomore kicking off of the ground.
In high school you get to use your own kicker ball as well. My son just uses an LSU game ball, Nike Vapor Elite. It’s a regular leather ball that he’s kicked a ton of times…has one for FGs and one for kickoffs, since he has to kickoff right after kicking a FG…and he might kick it over the fence:
YouTube, last Friday
Sophomore kicking off of the ground.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 7:40 am
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Kickers have gotten better, but I've always been under the assumption that these kicking balls act a lot like "juiced" baseballs.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:19 am to moneyg
I believe kickers are juicing, using juiced balls or both.
The closest parallel in sports is when HRs in baseball started exploding in the steroid era.
You don’t see across the board gains in outcomes explode the way they have without something providing a mechanical advantage.
The closest parallel in sports is when HRs in baseball started exploding in the steroid era.
You don’t see across the board gains in outcomes explode the way they have without something providing a mechanical advantage.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:28 am to tide06
Kids are just being trained younger and therefore have more time to practice perfect mechanics.
You’d be surprised how well young kids can kick it these days. Watch where this 56 yarder goes…high school freshman. There’s no mechanical advantage.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Z9KuRv3s0vE
You’d be surprised how well young kids can kick it these days. Watch where this 56 yarder goes…high school freshman. There’s no mechanical advantage.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Z9KuRv3s0vE
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:35 am to tide06
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You don’t see across the board gains in outcomes explode the way they have without something providing a mechanical advantage.
Nothing has "exploded". This is just years of development.
I mean when I was a freshman at LSU (2001), teams were still not giving out scholarships to kickers. I think this continued for some time after. Teams also devoted almost no resources to development. That was the COLLEGE level. Imagine how shitty it was at the high/middle school levels.
Now kicking/punting is invested in. There are camps these kids go to from pre-high school onwards. Scholarships are given. Coaches invest time in developing their guys. I mean shite Australia has developmental programs and pipelines to CFB now. You will probably see this happen in Europe, too.
Look at the clip Gaston posted. You didn't see that 10 years ago, let alone 20
Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:26 am to SlickRickerz
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It’s honestly ruining the game. The fact that you can win a game by kicking a game winner on your side of the 50 is ridiculous.
This is a bad take and you should feel bad.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 11:01 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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When's the last time a kicker actually kicked with a game ball? 20 years ago? When it's 4th down, the ball on the field should be the one you kick with...not some special conditioned Nerf ball.
Exactly, what’s stopping a kicker from using a specially made ball that gives you extra distance. With all the resources the NFL teams have I’d be surprised if everyone isn’t doing it
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