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re: NFL is considering banning the "hip-drop tackle"
Posted on 10/18/23 at 8:56 pm to toosleaux
Posted on 10/18/23 at 8:56 pm to toosleaux
Good! Played and coached football and I've always hated this tackle. Riding someone down while your body weight is on the back of their legs is a legitimate concern. Hopefully, they can take it out of the game without too much reformation.
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:01 pm to fightin tigers
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Same idea behind banning the horse collar tackle
The horse collar is a legit safety issue, hip-dropping isn't, that's football.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:05 pm to toosleaux
So they're considering banning wrap up tackles from anywhere but head on? Makes sense.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:25 pm to toosleaux
the end of the day the powers that be have to come to the conclusion that it’s a rough arse sport and you get hurt playing it.
Period.
The inherent nature of the sport is dangerous and you can hurt yourself playing it.
Period.
The inherent nature of the sport is dangerous and you can hurt yourself playing it.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:28 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Something has to give. I hate restricting tackling. But I also hate elite players getting hurt each week.
Injuries are woven into the game.
It’s a brutal sport, everyone knows this from a pee wee league to a college player.
The sport you are playing is dangerous, it’s what the sport is.
You modify it too much it’s no longer the sport you signed up to play.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:29 pm to toosleaux
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The league will continue studying the hip-drop tackle, which McKay said is “creating an unreasonable risk of injury.”
Know what else is “creating an unreasonable risk of injury” playing on shitty turf fields. Yet, I don’t see the competition committee taking a serious look and make teams, especially w outdoor stadiums, doing more to fix the field of play.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:08 pm to saintsfan22
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Derrick Henry gonna get to play til he's 40.
Winner winner
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:15 am to WaterLink
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Unforgivable behavior
Reading. Unforgiving is not unforgivable
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:53 am to toosleaux
Take a hint from rugby, do away with pads, and make teams play with 10 men if someone commits an egregious penalty.
You might have the ultimate sport at that point.
You might have the ultimate sport at that point.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:08 am to Earnest_P
Blows my mind they are still cool with runners legally spearing people, but this is the problem.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:24 am to WaterLink
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NFL executive Jeff Miller cited the danger of the play Tuesday at the league meetings, saying the hip-drop tackle increases risk of injury by 25 times the rate of a standard tackle.
“It is an unforgiving behavior and one that we need to try to define and get out of the game,” Miller said, via Rob Maaddi of the Associated Press. “To quantify it for you, we see an injury more or less every week in the regular season on the hip-drop.”
Then blow the whistle immediately when the defender wraps them up
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:27 am to dcrews
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mean, at some point teams/players just have to accept that the game they play for a living has injuries.
You signed up to bash your body into other bodies. !!
They make millions. Play the goddamn game
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:04 am to Carson123987
It’s already unrecognizable.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:15 am to Madking
Also, this will be another subjective item refs can use to rig games. A couple of games last weekend were altered with refs making horrible calls on clean hits. One came on a 4th and 10 that would have ended the game, but nope. The fixed league stepped in, made the obvious bad call, and extended the drive.
I can’t wait until a big, meaningful game is altered due to a normal tackle that magically fits under this new rule. Then college will adapt it and the SEC will make the NFL look like child’s play when they need to fix games.
I can’t wait until a big, meaningful game is altered due to a normal tackle that magically fits under this new rule. Then college will adapt it and the SEC will make the NFL look like child’s play when they need to fix games.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:45 am to Madking
so with these rules come non intended consequences
John Welbourn who played over a decade in the league and now runs Power Athlete has talked about this
but when they did away with all of the hitting in training camp....yea it stop so many injuries in camp, but what it did was allow guys to be recovered and continue to get bigger and stronger all year. the consequences is guys are hitting the others at a much harder rate, especially along the lines. the guys are also bigger, stronger, faster now that they are playing actual games at 100%
that sounds fantastic until you realize the impact this has on the body long term.
this will be another one of those situations. it will allow RBs to play longer but it will cause more long term damage imo.
John Welbourn who played over a decade in the league and now runs Power Athlete has talked about this
but when they did away with all of the hitting in training camp....yea it stop so many injuries in camp, but what it did was allow guys to be recovered and continue to get bigger and stronger all year. the consequences is guys are hitting the others at a much harder rate, especially along the lines. the guys are also bigger, stronger, faster now that they are playing actual games at 100%
that sounds fantastic until you realize the impact this has on the body long term.
this will be another one of those situations. it will allow RBs to play longer but it will cause more long term damage imo.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:31 am to toosleaux
There was a woman on NFL Network saying that defenders will just have to adjust. A former player (forget his name) was clearing just biting his tongue. He disagreed but he wanted to say a lot more. This ends tackle football if passed.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:59 am to Weekend Warrior79
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Know what else is “creating an unreasonable risk of injury” playing on shitty turf fields.
The turf now is a LOT better than what they used to play on
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:54 pm to chalmetteowl
Tell me, how is a 185# safety supposed to bring down 235# Detrick Henry?
With out getting killed?
With out getting killed?
Posted on 10/19/23 at 1:01 pm to toosleaux
Are actual players advocating for this?
People like Rich McKay are fricking losers
People like Rich McKay are fricking losers
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:39 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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I can’t wait until a big, meaningful game is altered
Sort of like the NOLA no-call, right?
This is all bullshite. The ONLY thing the league gives a frick about is money. All this player safety crap is just a charade to protect themselves from lawsuits in the future.
At some point, people are going to have to come to their senses, and common sense needs to take over. Football is a brutal sport that will have injuries from time to time. The ex players who sue the league behind the bullshite need to be stopped, and the NFL has got to stop changing the game to avoid this type of shite.
NFL football ain’t even close to being the game that it was a decade ago. None of the rule changes have made ANYTHING better
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