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re: New to Louisiana High school football

Posted on 12/13/17 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 2:00 pm to
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The big privates could and would support the smaller privates


Oh really, Redemptorist of Baton Rouge says hello.

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The big publics absolutely could not support the smaller public schools.


Don't have to because they support themselves. You do realize there are plenty of small public schools who don't even play private schools?

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Go to a small private school, you will see program support for tennis, golf, tiddly winks and more


Go to a small public school that isnt one of the few that have a football following, and you will see baseball played on an overgrown cow pasture, no tennis team, and a golf team who is coached by the Math teacher names Mrs. Jones and their averages score is +110 over par



Sounds to me like the public schools have it right and aren't funding something no one has a damn bit of interest in including the students.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15295 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Thomas Dale High School in Chester, VA has 2100 students and is 6A. By comparison West Monroe has about 2300 students and is 5A


That's not a good comparison, IMO.
The five classifications in Louisiana are decided every two years, and the minimum numbers are adjusted each period to keep the same number (give-or-take) of schools in each class.

At 2300, however, W.M. is one of the largest schools in the state. We have no need of a 6A classification, and don't really have that many huge schools to warrant it , nor enough schools to need another entire classification.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35098 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:14 pm to
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The big privates could and would support the smaller privates


The big publics absolutely could not support the smaller public schools.


Go to a small private school, you will see program support for tennis, golf, tiddly winks and more


Go to a small public school that isnt one of the few that have a football following, and you will see baseball played on an overgrown cow pasture, no tennis team, and a golf team who is coached by the Math teacher names Mrs. Jones and their averages score is +110 over par


I have 100% confidence a fully public run system in louisiana will fail. I would bet my life on it



negative... some smaller privates are struggling mightily right now.. redemptorist died.. christian life....


small towns support the heck out of their teams....

I sat in a couple of meetings with some private coaches/ad/principals after the split..... their reasons for actually not bolting are pretty well known - hence the further split.. the publics had em...

for one in most privates do not have their own stadium.. catholic high, jesuit and BM the 3 biggest and most powerful.. Local school boards control most municipal stadiums if the teams bolted. - they could have been denied use.... the NFHS will now only recognize 1 association in a state.....

2. the public selects are all on the verge of being allowed back in with publics...

3. many of the 1A schools would get mauled having to play with 2a... many in 2a want no part of the 3a...

4. many in 4a - politicked to be away from the 5a....

at the end of the day too few teams... and yes catholic, jesuit and BM could go build their own stadiums..... but many could not.... I have been to games all over the state.. and unless you have been there you can't comprehend how much support teams get once you are out of the suburbs..... Like one principal told me.. after 2013 when they realized we didn't have the solidarity or the overall resources to bolt, we have been at their mercy......
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 3:40 pm to
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negative... some smaller privates are struggling mightily right now.. redemptorist died.. christian life....

And there are public schools that are dying as well.......More than privates.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 5:13 pm to
Omg dude why do you hate public schools so much?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:04 pm to
I hate the public system in louisiana with every fiber of my being

I hate that I spend taxes on roads that are shite

I hate I spend taxes on schools that are shite

I hate I give taxes to law enforcement and politicians who abuse their powers

I am not naive enough to beleive any public run system can survive without the support/ forced welfare from the private sector in this state
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49699 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:10 pm to
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am not naive enough to beleive any public run system can survive without the support/ forced welfare from the private sector in this state
. So you want public run schools with being funded from taxes? Is this what you are saying? Because that is what it sounds like. If so how do you propose that they be funded?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:12 pm to
No, that isn't what I am saying

I am saying the public system as a whole in the state sucks arse

A fully public sports league would be no different.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:14 pm to
Yea man I get all that, but why do you hate their athletic programs so much? You know you and I are cool, but honestly it just seems like a stuck up, snobby opinion... I’m not saying you’re wrong or anything, but damn
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 9:14 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:19 pm to
I have no issues with any of the public schools that voted against the split

For the ones that voted for it I think it damn near represents everything wrong with the public system mentality in this state
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:42 am to
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St. Aug, Brother Martin, and Jesuit are the main powers in New Orleans.

Know how I know you don’t watch much NOLA Football?
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:46 am to
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Finally, Catholic BR, Saint Amant, East Ascension, and Dutchtown are all choke artists in the post season.


quote: Catholic High claims 2nd title in 3 years after defensive battle with John Curtis


Can’t argue with this. Historically, your homosexual brothers atCHS ARE chokers. Not until they got to the watered down playoffs have they sniffed a SC.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17171 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:30 am to
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I have no issues with any of the public schools that voted against the split For the ones that voted for it I think it damn near represents everything wrong with the public system mentality in this state


This is the first thing you've said I agree with. The school my father attended (and became principal of), I attended, and my kids attended is one who was against the split. The school has tremendous support and the athletic department supports itself easily. Our cross river rival wanted the split, the main issue was the private coaches "recruiting kids away"; I have seen coaches at recreation/travel games in all sports talking to parents. There are public schools that do the same thing. If you can offer an equal quality education for free, you have the advantage.....unless the parents send the kid to a private strictly based on their athletics; like the school in River Ridge and the catholic in Metairie.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35098 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 7:46 am to
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New to Louisiana High school football
I have no issues with any of the public schools that voted against the split

For the ones that voted for it I think it damn near represents everything wrong with the public system mentality in this state
the magnificent 7 that gave us play in class which led to the split are a greater example


everyone protects their own parochial interests
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 7:47 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54851 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:00 am to
John Curtis didn't HAVE to be a recruited up nationally ranked program to win class 2A

My argument is that the seed planted in Jane Griffin's mind to split was Curtis having like 90-100 players in the Dome that day and Winnfield having idk, 50-60. If Curtis cuts a bunch of kids and has like 50-60, does Jane Griffin think they're more of a normal 2A school?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35098 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:04 am to
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. If Curtis cuts a bunch of kids and has like 50-60, does Jane Griffin think they're more of a normal 2A school?
I don't think they ever cut
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:15 am to
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the magnificent 7 that gave us play in class which led to the split are a greater example
Do you have any articles from this?

I remember this happening my junior year in high school I beleive, and Coach Weiner was pissed about it
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35098 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:38 am to
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Do you have any articles from this?

I remember this happening my junior year in high school I beleive, and Coach Weiner was pissed about it

No...... yes Dale was one of the 5 or 6 that stated "this will lead to trouble" The regime at the time at shaw and regime before them also came out hard against it. So did a big public program in laffy.... but the ones that started it had tired of losing to JC and ECA... and some didn't want JC in their district / class as football only...


actually one of the clowns took credit when eca had their "break up" saying LOOK it worked.....no,,,,, no it didn't.....

I know someone well that was on the exec comm back then and he has some notes on it... but.... that's about it....
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 8:39 am
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49699 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:33 pm to
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lsupride87


Why don't you tell us what your answers and solutions are to the problems between public and private schools?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Why don't you tell us what your answers and solutions are to the problems between public and private schools?

Play together.

Period

99% of players that leave their districts in louisiana to attend private schools are for a better education and environment, and they pay full price.


The free tuition for athletes happens, but it has been made a fake bogey man far larger that it really is. And guess what, the private schools are still competing against those same few schools that abuse the rules(publics abuse these rules as well)

If the public schools that were losing students to private schools focused more on improving their academics and school, they wouldnt have to worry so much about losing at football.......

This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 2:12 pm
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