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re: NBA Trade Deadline Thread -- WOJ BOMB- HARDEN TO 76ers/SIMMONS TO NETS, Porzingis to Wiz

Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:45 pm to
What's that guy mad about? Not one but TWO Jeremy Lambs? What a deal!
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:02 pm to
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Having already moved Norm Powell and CJ McCollum, Portland is still engaged in conversations with Detroit on acquiring forward Jerami Grant, sources said.


They going for a quick rebuild
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:09 pm to
Considering Grant’s contract and playing style demands, this sounds like they are getting out of one bad cap situation and walking straight into another.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:32 pm to
If fits what he is looking for. He wants to be high usage on offense. They can build a solid team if they can find a 2a kinda guy and let grant be 2b offensively.
Posted by TechTiger
Running an easy 10
Member since Feb 2007
1461 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:00 pm to
They need to find another defensively versatile wing player for when Dame is healthy.

I’m not sure they run Dame and Simons as the starting back court duo….depending on how much they pay him, he should be ideal for a 6th man role.

If they can bring in Grant and another 3&D wing, then their starting lineup is decent. Maybe Little takes a step forward.

PG Dame
SG Hart
SF Little
PF Grant
C Nurkic
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:25 pm to
Simmons!
Posted by TechTiger
Running an easy 10
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:53 pm to
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Simmons!


Ben?….doubt that happens
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Freeport, FL
Member since Apr 2009
10428 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:31 am to
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James Harden is pushing for a trade to Philadelphia, per Brian Windhorst

"I can't tell you how much James Harden wants this..

He is screaming in every way he possibly can 'I don't want to be here, get me out of here.'"?? (h/t @RealGM )


Just like Raja said on a podcast a few days ago...

At some points it's you. If you're always the guy who's unhappy and wanting out because of this or that, you are "this or that."
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 11:34 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:38 am to
What do you mean always wanting out? 2 times isn’t “always” breadie. This isn’t what BKN sold him on when he chose to go there.
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Freeport, FL
Member since Apr 2009
10428 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:28 pm to
You're right..sort of. I've been married 12 years so I should know better than the speak in absolutes

But you can't deny that this is becoming a trend. Forcing his way out on 2 of the 3 teams he's played for is not a good look Boom. Even if I misspoke when I said "always," the rest of my point remains.

Last year I was impressed with Harden as he seemed to make some sacrifices and, to many, looked like the adult in the room over there. Found myself rooting for him. But in the NBA I tend to root for the Pels and whoever isn't a self-absorbed a-hole. Disappointed he's doing this again. Arent you....even just a little?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 12:34 pm to
This is all on Irving if we being honest. When you are on a team and you are committed to winning, and you have someone making what Kai is making who lacks that commitment, it is easy to want a situation where people put the team and winning first.
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Freeport, FL
Member since Apr 2009
10428 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:10 pm to
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This is all on Irving if we being honest. When you are on a team and you are committed to winning, and you have someone making what Kai is making who lacks that commitment, it is easy to want a situation where people put the team and winning first.


This could not be more true. Kyrie deserves more criticism than anyone, BUT........you definitely dodged my question at the end.

Can you not admit that the optics of this are bad and that it's not great for a player to force his way off of a team less than two years since he forced his way off of another team?

Also, you've stated that Harden wants off the Nets because his co-starts are hurt and/or not playing. Some of us have poked holes in that logic referencing Joel's availability history.

Your reply to that was that Philly has a better team for Harden to play with even when Embiid is out, but that will not necessarily be that case post trade. The Nets are asking for Matisse Thybulle and Tyrese Maxey to also be a part of the trade.

Philly without Embiid, Thybull, Maxey, and Simmons aren't winning even with Harden.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:12 pm to
Joe is healthy now, and playing the best ball of his career. Perfect time to make that move. To me Jojo Is the best player in the nba as of today.

It is bad optics yes but only because a lot of people don’t take the time to dig in and see the WHY with this.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116181 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:13 pm to
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The Utah Jazz are acquiring guard Portland’s Nickeil Alexander-Walker and the Spurs’ Juancho Hernangomez in a three-way deal, sources tell ESPN. The Spurs gets guard Tomas Satoransky and a second-round pick, and the Blazers get Joe Ingles, Elijah Hughes and a second-round pick.


Ingles not being on the Jazz feels wrong
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130337 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:15 pm to
Portland sheds more future salary.

That's a great situation for NAW, being with the Jazz is much better for him than Portland. Happy for him.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17593 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:24 pm to
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This is all on Irving if we being honest. When you are on a team and you are committed to winning, and you have someone making what Kai is making who lacks that commitment, it is easy to want a situation where people put the team and winning first.


That's a copout.

Harden and Durant are supposed to be 2 top-5 players in the league. They shouldn't need Kyrie to be a championship team.
This post was edited on 2/9/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:30 pm to
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You're right..sort of. I've been married 12 years so I should know better than the speak in absolutes


Completely off topic, but as a guy in my 30s, not married and wanting to keep my money mine... what is to the break up?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:31 pm to
Don’t quote me on this but I don’t think harden is too happy with KD babying Irving. But from what I can gather that is likely the case.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Member since May 2006
80399 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:39 pm to
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Just like Raja said on a podcast a few days ago...

At some points it's you. If you're always the guy who's unhappy and wanting out because of this or that, you are "this or that."


Kinda disagree in this case because Kyrie half-timing throws a wrench in everything. Harden's clock is ticking and Kyrie is wasting his time.
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Freeport, FL
Member since Apr 2009
10428 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Completely off topic, but as a guy in my 30s, not married and wanting to keep my money mine... what is to the break up?


Sorry, it's probably me being dumb, but I don't understand the question. What are you asking here?
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