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re: NBA Offseason Trade & FA thread: KD To Ws, Wade to Bulls

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Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68549 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:53 pm to
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Outside of the catch and shoot 3 from the wing, which he is great at, he is useless. Can't finish at the rim, can't dunk, can't get to the line, not a good passer or ball handler, turnover prone. He's just not that good a player unless he's just doing literally one thing. And his personality sucks.


Exactly. His knees are shot. Basically only a spot up shooter that can't play defense along the lines of a rich man's Anthony Morrow, hence why he got way less than a max deal.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30191 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:53 pm to
Interesting. I agree on Golden State though.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130338 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:54 pm to
Because you added two Pels who are horrendous defensively that 3 months ago you would have said they were below replacement players?

K. You're one of kind boom.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Jar_Jar_80
Member since Oct 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:54 pm to
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It was just the other day I was told those guys were playoff caliber players on Pels talk. I'd take whatever the Rockets put together over what the Pels did with them.
I don't know who said that because 98% of Pels talk can't stand Gordon and hates Ryno one foot step back.
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
14260 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:54 pm to
Houston was all kinds of dysfunctional this past year. You'd have to think this was their "floor" and they can only go up from there?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32307 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:55 pm to
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It was just the other day I was told those guys were playoff caliber players on Pels talk. I'd take whatever the Rockets put together over what the Pels did with them.



they were, as a 3-4th option at best. People love to exaggerate, but the reality is.

Ryno is a black hole offensively, he does not like to pass at all. He rather settle for either a bad step back (which he's improved I will admit) or tries to take it to the rim. He's pretty bad defensively, but a good wing and center can hide the deficiencies. The issue is, Harden is unpredictable. He played REALLY good defense 2 years ago, the best in his career. Last year, he played like his whole career: shite

EG is a good shooter, he's not as bad with the ball as people love to say, but he is not great. He does not take many shots at the rim since his last knee procedure two years ago, his knees are shot. His numbers dropped drastically (30% -> 20% FGA within 3ft; shot 58% and now 48% from within 3ft as well). He's also below average on defense at this point, after the knee injuries over the years they're just kind of shot sadly

They're good pieces as role players, but if you're depending on them as #2-#3 on your team than it is a little bit more than you want to bargain for unless Harden continues to dominate the ball as efficient as he has been.
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
14260 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:07 pm to
I pretty much agree with your post word for word. Well said

EG should look better in HOU though. He's finally away from the CP3 trade expectations.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74445 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:08 pm to
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It was just the other day I was told those guys were playoff caliber players on Pels talk. I'd take whatever the Rockets put together over what the Pels did with them.


Are playoff caliber players guys who have made the playoffs?

Go back to playing NBA live in your dorm room, gent
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:19 pm to
You can't find a post of me bashing either of those guys.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:20 pm to
Yep that was as bad as it gets in h-town.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91777 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:29 pm to
Toronto is in the Gasol hunt. Guess he would kick back to the 4
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:41 pm to
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Toronto is in the Gasol hunt. Guess he would kick back to the 4


Hopefully he ends up there. I like the East beefing up a bit.

Indy, Boston and New York are all improved. At least make it competitive for Cleveland.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:44 pm to
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Yea I'll say 52-54 wins something like that. Depending on matchups then can get to WCF. Safe to assume Golden state wins the west next year if they have decent health.


Is this the 2015 FA thread?
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:44 pm to
looking like Crawford to the sixers
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91777 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:48 pm to
You would think Crossover would go to a contender
Posted by Woopigsooie20
FREE HRV
Member since Mar 2010
60407 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:51 pm to
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On another note I really don't know what to think about KD 



He's resiging with OKC.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46370 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:55 pm to
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Toronto is in the Gasol hunt.


Gasol was who I wanted if Horford left. hell, I woulda taken em as a tandem.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91777 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:58 pm to
Durant decision to come 24-36 hours. OKC unsure if they'll get a 2nd interview
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 9:59 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:59 pm to
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You can't find a post of me bashing either of those guys

LINK

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59927 posts
Posted on 7/2/16 at 10:03 pm to
Weak AF
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