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re: My nostalgia for Larry Bird- Magic Johnson era NBA basketball has reached absurd levels
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/15/24 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Some of the ugliest basketball literally in NBA history. Only matchup worse is probably the Knicks-Heat. Riley ball squared
“ugly” as they may have been from an aesthetic standpoint, the games were entertaining, dramatic and great to watch.
You can throw in the old Cleveland Cavalier with Mark Price, Craig Ehlo and Brad Daughtery. Those eastern conference playoffs were, dare I say, must see TV.
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 3:26 pm to Lsupimp
I tried this during the nba Covid lockdown and I will never subject myself to that level of boredom again
Posted on 8/15/24 at 3:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
Those aren’t questions, that’s one ignorant statement and the other is a straw man. Both have been addressed so not like that at all.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 3:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The math says it's better
No it doesn’t. You false equate a bastardized version of efficiency with quality. Effectiveness beats efficiency always.
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No. This is quite the assumption, though Are you now going to argue that Steph Curry is inferior talent? Steve Nash?
Good Lord you try to argue my point by only reinforcing my point. You have to be the worst paralegal at your strip mall law firm.
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Again, math
Effectiveness > efficiency. Learn the difference kid.
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See now you're arguing with math. You're no longer arguing with me.
Valuing efficiency over effectiveness is why James Harden has never played in the NBA Finals and Steph Curry has 4 titles.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 4:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why would today's strategy not be better against a much more limited defense? How would the limitations imposed on the defense not make offense easier to exploit?
Define today’s strategies, be detailed and use specifics.
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You do realize nothing in the rules today prevents teams from playing defensive styles like in the 90s, right? And the number of teams who employ this pure-man defense is 0, right?
Well other than hand checking, the three second rule, three point line adjustments, foul-baiting, players not being taught defense when they are high school age, loan management on and off the court, and the commissioner’s open push to increase scoring, nothing.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:24 pm to Dairy Sanders
You’re dealing with a person whose entire knowledge of basketball comes from reading media online. This guy has never played or coached basketball and watched very little of it relatively so he argues semantics not understanding that in practice the things he gives all this weight to are actually subtle and minor.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:26 pm to Madking
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Those aren’t questions,
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Why would today's strategy not be better against a much more limited defense? How would the limitations imposed on the defense not make offense easier to exploit?
You do realize nothing in the rules today prevents teams from playing defensive styles like in the 90s, right? And the number of teams who employ this pure-man defense is 0, right?
That is 4 questions.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
They’ve already been addressed and you must not understand what a question is.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:31 pm to Dairy Sanders
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Effectiveness beats efficiency always.
Then why aren't teams exploiting this inefficiency and following your model?
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Valuing efficiency over effectiveness is why James Harden has never played in the NBA Finals and Steph Curry has 4 titles.
Steph Curry is the literal face of the modern, efficiency-based offense.
His shot chart is primarily 3s and shot at the rim, with a little elbow sprinkled in.
As you said
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There is no variety in offensive skills today either. It’s all 3s or dunks/layups.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
But since you’re a child I’ll placate your deflections. Here are the 4 answers….
-What strategy?
-Defenses weren't limited, that’s an opinion and an ill informed one at that.
- no they don’t and that’s a contradictory statement from you
- that depends on what you define as “pure man”
-What strategy?
-Defenses weren't limited, that’s an opinion and an ill informed one at that.
- no they don’t and that’s a contradictory statement from you
- that depends on what you define as “pure man”
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:35 pm to Dairy Sanders
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Define today’s strategies, be detailed and use specifics.
Lots of movement and passing seeking efficient points.
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Well other than hand checking
The most overrated action in NBA history, which still doesn't prevent iso-man D like in the past.
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the three second rule
The defensive three second rule? How is this responsive to my question
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three point line adjustments
How is the current 3 point line different than the 90s, well OTHER than when the 90s had a shorter/easier 3 point line.
Again, how is this even responsive to my question?
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foul-baiting
Existed in the past
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players not being taught defense when they are high school age,
Now you're reaching
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
You talk like you are smarter than popovich… why don’t you make a few calls and be the next pat Riley????
Frickin dipshit……….
Frickin dipshit……….
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:42 pm to Madking
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What strategy?
Partial zones, doubling/helping guys without the ball, circling the post, dig out/in post, etc.
All things that would be illegal under the 90s rules
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Defenses weren't limited
Illegal defense was an extremely limiting rule, which caused iso-man D as the only option
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no they don’t and that’s a contradictory statement from you
You understanding (or not) that nothing prevents them from adopting old defensive strategies is not a contradiction
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that depends on what you define as “pure man”
Illegal defense, defense
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:42 pm to dukke v
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You talk like you are smarter than popovich
Raw probably but BBIQ? No way
Pop isn't playing 90s offense or defense anymore, though
He's actually a great argument for my points.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Raw ?????? You missed my point. Pop would have done great in the 80’s or 90’s. I have zero clue why you continue to bash the 80’s and 90’s. If you can’t understand how important the NBA became because of magic and bird, then you need serious help.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:49 pm to Lsupimp
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Do you remember how exciting the eastern conference finals for instance on CBS were in those days ? Truly can’t miss television. And we thought it would just stay that way. We were wrong.
They replayed 87finals Game4 on Nbatv a couple of nights ago (magic sky hook game). Very enjoyable even when you know the outcome.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:49 pm to dukke v
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. Pop would have done great in the 80’s or 90’s.
100%
He won in the 00s with 90s style, even after the rules changes (2003, 2005, 2007).
His last title was in 2014 and they won with a modern offense, before GS/Curry won a single title (that started the next year in 2015)
Pop gave up the 90s style
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If you can’t understand how important the NBA became because of magic and bird, then you need serious help.
I already said that, ITT, and said that I give the 80s a pass typically b/c it was just finding itself because they made it popular.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Everything in your post is an example of not understanding what you’re talking about plus you refused to clarify anything I asked you to. “Pure man” = illegal defense? WTF are you talking about?
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:55 pm to dukke v
He bashes them because he read or heard somewhere they weren’t good so he just repeats that hot take. As has been shown over and over with him, he has no idea what he’s talking about when it comes to the NBA and has zero understanding of anything beyond 5 years ago.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
Giving them credit is different than giving them a pass. Nobody was doing or playing the game the way magic and bird were. They changed a generation on how to play the game……
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