re: My nostalgia for Larry Bird- Magic Johnson era NBA basketball has reached absurd levels

Nelson was seen as an absolute outlier even into his time in Dallas

So how many outliers are there because we’re at two you’ve admitted and there are more to go.

I guess he’ll just change the definition of outlier next

What’s crazy to me is if you practically apply his logic it’s as if he believes all of the sudden Steve Kerr discovered up tempo basketball like a caveman discovering fire instead of reality where todays coaches are simply a continuation of the previous group of coaches and have just adjusted the schemes they came up learning to exploit the modern rules which is what’s actually always happened.

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I'll give you an outlier: 430,000 posts.

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Gross.

Correct and this is the nature of sports in general. It’s a flow of adaptation with contributing, peripheral factors. What SFP proposes is some weird fantasy of modernity being purposely discovered and he supports that theory by changing the past and altering facts.

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Obsessed. Damn , I can’t watch enough YouTube of 1980s- 1990s basketball. That includes the emergence of the Pistons and the Bulls and the Rockets and all the great teams and players of that era. And yet, the current NBA , with all these great players and teams leaves me cold. I’m the opposite about the NFL where it’s hard to watch the old NFL and it looks like an inferior product. Anyhow, the point is I’m not attached to an era, but definitely attached to sports styles and players in certain eras. And 80s - 90s Lakers Celtic Pistons Bulls NBA Dream team era was the shite.

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I’d argue that even though they didn’t actually win titles, you could throw Reggie Miller and the Pacers and Patrick Ewing’s Knicks in as adding to the allure of that era.

Teams had identities. They had players that you had followed in college. Players had charisma.

So many players in todays game seem generic.

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So how many outliers are there because we’re at two you’ve admitted and there are more to go.

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If both of those coaches existed for the full period of time, they'd be outliers.

We're talking 2/25 or 2/27 (depending on the year)

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I’d argue that even though they didn’t actually win titles, you could throw Reggie Miller and the Pacers and Patrick Ewing’s Knicks in as adding to the allure of that era.

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Some of the ugliest basketball literally in NBA history.

Only matchup worse is probably the Knicks-Heat. Riley ball squared

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That 80s-90s was The Golden Era and it matters not if you are too self- satisfied to understand why.

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I lived through it

I used to ignorantly defend it

Post-Bad Boys was really shite.

I can give the 80s some leeway because of talent issues and that being the first real period of national emergence. They didn't really know what they were doing (especially with the new 3 point shot).

But the Bad Boys screwed up the NBA for more than a decade. Literally almost killed the league by the early 00s. Skill level got bad. Thuggery was promoted as defense. Being scared bitches on offense was promoted as defense. And the talent level dropped off really quickly and you had some TERRIBLE teams at the bottom.