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re: Most Overrated Player In NBA History
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:25 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:25 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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Correct and one of them played basketball well enough to win 3x in a row
Team stat.
quote:
Kobe is better at winning basketball.
So that's a white flag, I take it?
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:26 pm to Madking
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but winning stands the test of time
So you have Russell over Jordan, right? Havlicek, too, right? And Bob Cousey?
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:26 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:Can you tell me where you have Bill Russell ranked and who is ahead of him?
Kobe was more skilled, won more in a tougher conference. LeBron was a better athlete.
Next in line, please.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Refusing to simply say Kobe is the better basketball player and also...See the Bill Russell question I've asked him about 6 or 7 times
So that's a white flag, I take it?
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
Robert Horry
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:27 pm to shel311
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Incorrect, Lebron has won more than 3 titles.
The bubble doesn’t count as it is not equal to other playoffs. So 3.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:28 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Can you tell me where you have Bill Russell ranked and who is ahead of him?
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:28 pm to shel311
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Refusing to simply say Kobe is the better basketball player and also...See the Bill Russell question I've asked him about 6 or 7 times
Is wilt better than Russell? I’ve only asked multiple times. Your tactic is overused and a sign of weakness.
And white flag? Im here to teach y’all SFPJ.
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:29 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
anyone who thinks kobe was better than lebron is legitimately retarded
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:31 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
Can you tell me where you have Bill Russell ranked and who is ahead of him?
Funny how you've dodged my question nearly 10 times, and I answered your initial question but you're still dodging mine and asking me follow up questions.
Why can't you answer? What gives?
Funny how you've dodged my question nearly 10 times, and I answered your initial question but you're still dodging mine and asking me follow up questions.
Why can't you answer? What gives?
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:31 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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So…The Heatles? Kyrie hitting the clincher?
Lebron was by far the best player in Miami and Cleveland. This is not debatable.
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Blowing a 2-1 lead in 15 and in 11?
Lebron deserves criticism for 2011. I wont deny that. But if you want to go that route, let's not overlook 2003, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 11, and 12 for Kobe then.
Also for 2015, you don't want to talk about that. Lebrob was without his 2nd and 3rd best players. Even still, he was easily the best player on the court, so much so, they awarded FMVP to the guy who defended Lebron.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Team stat.
This isn’t football or baseball where fools can hide behind that. Basketball has 2 way play with 10 men on the court.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:34 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:So rings matter, until they don't fit your narrative, then they don't matter as much.
This isn’t football or baseball where fools can hide behind that. Basketball has 2 way play with 10 men on the court.
Got it.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:34 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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The bubble doesn’t count as it is not equal to other playoffs. So 3.
You can't just wipe out that season from existence. Whether you like it or not. It happened. Under the rules at the time, the Lakers won.
If you do want to wipe it from existence, let's just wipe out all of Bill's championships, etc. After all, these were won when there were only 8 teams in the league. So it can't be equal to other playoffs.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:35 pm to Boodis Man
I think he's the Wilt Chamberlain of his era.
He's an all time great player. Physically dominant. Strong. Fast. Big. Ability to score, rebound, and pass. He's won championship games. Played very well for multiple franchises over a long period of time.
But he will arguably go down less accomplished than he could have been especially in championships. His leadership therefore has been questioned when the most deeply ingrained memories of fans will include the times when he came up short.
And he's clearly insecure about his place. He should be above that given his accomplishments.
He's an all time great player. Physically dominant. Strong. Fast. Big. Ability to score, rebound, and pass. He's won championship games. Played very well for multiple franchises over a long period of time.
But he will arguably go down less accomplished than he could have been especially in championships. His leadership therefore has been questioned when the most deeply ingrained memories of fans will include the times when he came up short.
And he's clearly insecure about his place. He should be above that given his accomplishments.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:36 pm to QJenk
quote:Remember the 4 times where I said he can make a list of guys he thinks are better than Lebron, but he can't argue logically why it is so, there ya go.
You can't just wipe out that season from existence. Whether you like it or not. It happened.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:38 pm to shel311
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So rings matter, until they don't fit your narrative, then they don't matter as much. Got it.
We are talking about basketball. So the subject matters, not the “narrative”. Please keep up.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:38 pm to molsusports
quote:He is the second most accomplished basketball player ever. I think that’s pretty solid in terms of accomplishments
He's an all time great player. Physically dominant. Strong. Fast. Big. Ability to score, rebound, and pass. He's won championship games. Played very well for multiple franchises over a long period of time. But he will arguably go down less accomplished than he could have been especially in championships. His leadership therefore has been questioned when the most deeply ingrained memories of fans will include the times when he came up short. And he's clearly insecure about his place. He should be above that given his accomplishments.
Are Roger Federer and nadal the most overrated tennis players according to the MSB?
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Why would you include Havlicek and Cousy? Just further illustrates that you can’t be objective. There’s definitely a strong argument for Russell but you’ve left out large parts of what I posted which like everything in your argument is misleading to put it nicely.
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 2:39 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:Can you tell me where you have Bill Russell ranked and who is ahead of him?
We are talking about basketball. So the subject matters, not the “narrative”. Please keep up.
Or nah?
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