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re: MLB Trade Rumors: 07/31/17 Darvish/Cingrani to Dodgers, Kintzler to the Nats
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:04 pm to tduecen
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:04 pm to tduecen
Good thing u arent a GM. That's one horrible arse trade. Yes TJ ain't as big of a deal. But the only player in you trade that's worth a dam is shelved. And youre trading Elite players. I doubt they'd go for that for just Donaldson
I know you were just throwing something out there, but you kinda proved my point
I know you were just throwing something out there, but you kinda proved my point
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:06 pm
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:09 pm to Schmelly
Reyes is untradeable status still, so frick that. Especially for a 31 year old 3B in the midst of a terrible season and with injury problems of late.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:12 pm to UltimateHog
If it put u over the top, would you do it?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:12 pm to Schmelly
Donaldson is elite
Tulo is washed up and has a horrible contract paying him 69 million over the next 4 years
Donaldson is arbitration eligible but will be looking at 20+ million
Happ has 1 year and 14 million left
Essentially you are trading for rentals to win now, Toronto will not be able to get top tier prospects on anyone but Donaldson. Getting out of a couple of bad contracts would help them in the future as well. They won't get a great haul if they are including albatross contracts in a deal.
If it is just Donaldson they will get a pick of top 10 farm system/young players in return.
Tulo is washed up and has a horrible contract paying him 69 million over the next 4 years
Donaldson is arbitration eligible but will be looking at 20+ million
Happ has 1 year and 14 million left
Essentially you are trading for rentals to win now, Toronto will not be able to get top tier prospects on anyone but Donaldson. Getting out of a couple of bad contracts would help them in the future as well. They won't get a great haul if they are including albatross contracts in a deal.
If it is just Donaldson they will get a pick of top 10 farm system/young players in return.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:12 pm to UltimateHog
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with injury problems of late.
Uhhhh
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:13 pm to Schmelly
It wouldn't, or even come close so I can't say. Probably still not.
Reyes is too important.
Reyes is too important.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:14 pm to tduecen
Why not? Cubs traded an elite prospect for a 6 month rental. How'd that work out?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:15 pm to Schmelly
Because it still wouldn't make the Cards a contender, or even that close.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:16 pm to UltimateHog
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It wouldn't, or even come close so I can't say. Probably still not.
I agree it wouldn't. Cards lineup is waaay more in need than what 1 bat can provide. But we talking hypotheticals. If it was the missing piece to a ring, you most certainly do
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:17 pm to Schmelly
Cubs also traded from a position of strength and did not take on a bad contract.
As I said, if the Jays want to get rid of some bad contracts they can tie them with Donaldson. If not then they can get elite prospects from just Donaldson.
As I said, if the Jays want to get rid of some bad contracts they can tie them with Donaldson. If not then they can get elite prospects from just Donaldson.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:17 pm to Schmelly
I mean yeah I guess, just hard to envision that scenario.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:19 pm to UltimateHog
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Because it still wouldn't make the Cards a contender, or even that close.
Hypothetically!! Lol
I know they're not making this deal. That's my whole point. The parts don't fit. Reyes is about the only piece that's got big potential
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:19 pm to UltimateHog
Do the Cards have the prospects to just get Donaldson? Reyes, Weaver, and Kelly I assume would be the one they would build a package around. I know Reyes is supposed to be elite and they could build a package around him but what about the other two?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:19 pm to tduecen
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If not then they can get elite prospects from just Donaldson.
Not from STL
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:20 pm to tduecen
quote:definitely wouldn't say that
TJ is nothing anymore,
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:20 pm to Schmelly
quote:mainly because the Cards don't have elite prospects outside of Reyes. Weaver and Kelly are the only two I've heard mentioned before and neither cracks the Top 50 prospects I believe.
Not from STL
Just looked Kelly came in at 36 and Weaver at 52 Perez at 77 Flaherty at 96
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:21 pm to tduecen
Weaver and Kelly would be more likely. Not sure they're worth Donaldson though. And that's selling some heir apparents
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:21 pm to Schmelly
Yeah I know, Reyes in untradeable always has been and TJ isn't changing that.
And Carson Kelly would be so ignorant to trade as the #1 catching prospect in baseball with Yadi aging more and more.
Makes zero sense for the Cards.
And Carson Kelly would be so ignorant to trade as the #1 catching prospect in baseball with Yadi aging more and more.
Makes zero sense for the Cards.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:22 pm to tduecen
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mainly because the Cards don't have elite prospects outside of Reyes.
That's my whole point from the beginning!!!! Dam man
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:23 pm to tduecen
Kelly is the #1 catching prospect in baseball, but yeah there aren't that many great ones so overall is #36 still.
But you don't trade him away with aging Yadi.
But you don't trade him away with aging Yadi.
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