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re: MLB Trade Rumors: 07/31/17 Darvish/Cingrani to Dodgers, Kintzler to the Nats
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:24 pm to Schmelly
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:24 pm to Schmelly
I never said they did, I just threw out a hypothetical where the Jays unload a couple of bad contracts and get some young players in return.
Diaz I still think he becomes an above average MLB player just not at short where he didn't have good numbers
Diaz I still think he becomes an above average MLB player just not at short where he didn't have good numbers
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:24 pm to UltimateHog
You still have a few years. Didn't yadi just sign a big contract?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:25 pm to WestCoastAg
Meh, it isn't the deathknell like before, teams overlook it with players coming back sooner and in some cases better.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:26 pm to Schmelly
Yes, he still has a few more years left which is what they are doing, bringing Kelly along slowly as he learns under Yadi.
They are way too high internally on Kelly to be trading him.
They are way too high internally on Kelly to be trading him.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:26 pm to Schmelly
signed through 2020 at 20 million a year
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:27 pm to tduecen
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Diaz I still think he becomes an above average MLB player just not at short where he didn't have good numbers
Last year was a Serious outlier though. He's not coming close to those numbers for a career
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:28 pm to tduecen
quote:sure. but its still statistically factual that major league players who have the TJ procedure still have, on average, shorter careers
it isn't the deathknell like before
its not a death kneel, but its definitely not nothing
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:29 pm to Schmelly
And they got Lil Sweet on the come up lol
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:31 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:I'd be curious to see how this changes moving forward. Especially as we are seeing more players coming back and having it. I mean look at pitchers being drafted it seems a lot of them had TJ surgery in HS or college now.
still statistically factual that major league players who have the TJ procedure still have, on average, shorter careers
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:32 pm to tduecen
It'll get less and less of a big deal. Just like everything else
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:33 pm to tduecen
quote:i would love to see the numbers on how many pitchers taken in the first couple of rounds have had TJ. even then, teams are probably more likely to gamble on a 18 year old bouncing back than someone who has put his arm through a professional season
I mean look at pitchers being drafted it seems a lot of them had TJ surgery in HS or college now.
we could definitely be on our way to where its no big deal, i just wouldnt say that right now
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:35 pm to tduecen
It's getting to the point where the concern isn't the injuries and more about the person themselves. Meaning, the surgeries are getting so much better and perfected that the only unknown is the overall durability & susceptibility of it happening again to THAT particular guy. Like Marcus Lattimore. Dudes knees just suck
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:35 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:37 pm to tduecen
still rather low but definitely a major increase in recent years
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:38 pm to Schmelly
quote:I mean he came back just fine from a torn ACL but couldn't come back from a broken kneecap and tearing every muscle in his leg
Dudes knees just suck
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:40 pm to WestCoastAg
LINK
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Tommy John surgery is on the rise, and ulnar collateral ligament problems are a major issue in youth baseball. Fifteen to 19-year-olds accounted for 57 percent of Tommy John procedures in the United States from 2007-2011, according to a 2014 study in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:41 pm to tduecen
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I mean he came back just fine from a torn ACL but couldn't come back from a broken kneecap and tearing every muscle in his leg
You get my point, lol
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:43 pm to tduecen
i have no doubts that tommy john is on the rise amongst pitchers at all stages of play in general
i have already said that it isnt this career altering/ending procedure anymore. but it absolutely is a major procedure and it absolutely isnt nothing and the numbers that we have right now support that
that can obviously change in the future
i have already said that it isnt this career altering/ending procedure anymore. but it absolutely is a major procedure and it absolutely isnt nothing and the numbers that we have right now support that
that can obviously change in the future
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:44 pm to WestCoastAg
The fact that it's on the rise is exactly the reason why it's becoming less of a big deal
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:45 pm to WestCoastAg
Yeah I know, just trying to find more information that would answer the question. Obviously we see it rising among kids being drafted (no clue on first round pitchers) and it is rising among you leagues so it will continue to rise in MLB.
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