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re: Michigan offering 10.5 million to a QB recruit. Updated - it worked!

Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:40 am to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39417 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:40 am to
I want the illusion back.

The under the table Clint Eastwood Colt 45.

And we're none the wiser.

Transparency has ruined some joy.
Posted by Billy Johnson
Member since Oct 2024
432 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:42 am to
And he’s gone
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71148 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:15 am to
quote:

I want the illusion back.

The under the table Clint Eastwood Colt 45.

And we're none the wiser.

Transparency has ruined some joy.


There was always money involved in recruiting, I don't think there is any doubt or question about that. However, what has changed in the last few seasons is the AMOUNT of money that is now involved in the process that I doubt was there prior to the establishment of NIL. Cam Newton, a generational QB, reportedly got paid around $180,000 to play football at Auburn. By that time he was already a collegiate junior who had led Blinn College to the 2009 NJCAA national championship.

We're talking about $10.5 million for a high school player that hasn't done anything yet in the collegiate ranks. Something about that doesn't sit right with me. None of us minded the fact that some of our favorite players were getting paid a little cash under the table. We liked to chide each other about it but by and large we knew everyone was doing it. But THIS kind of money?! It's absurd.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 4:17 am
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5688 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:32 am to
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We're talking about $10.5 million for a high school player that hasn't done anything yet in the collegiate ranks. Something about that doesn't sit right with me.

But you and millions of others are still going to watch.
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But THIS kind of money?! It's absurd.

A lot of things in 2024 are absurd. Some chick has made more money than many of us ever will just by the freak occurrence of being fairly cute and saying “hawk tuah” at the right time and place.

Teen and young adult women (same age as high school and college athletes) are making bank in ways that weren’t possible a generation ago.

Since no one gives a shite about a 20 year old male in swimsuit pictures on IG and doing TikTok dances, let’s allow some young males make big money in one of few ways they can. At least being a major college football player requires real talent and hard work.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54818 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:50 am to
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We're talking about $10.5 million for a high school player that hasn't done anything yet in the collegiate ranks. Something about that doesn't sit right with me.


I just want to know what the scale is lol… if he gets 10 mil, then the kid from Evangel will probably get close to that in a few years

We got a sophomore at Chalmette that’s showed a little potential and won a state playoff game last week. I’m sure he’s 1% of Underwood lol but I don’t see him getting 100 grand…The Karr QB is I’m sure 10% or more of what Underwood is but I don’t think he’s getting a mil from anyone.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91520 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:36 am to
You sure they’re 10% of what Underwood is?

Can they garner nationwide attention, hype, and legitimately put you over the top in huge conference games and playoff games?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23017 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:57 am to
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Can they garner nationwide attention, hype, and legitimately put you over the top in huge conference games and playoff games?


You could tell me this was a post about DJ U a few years ago and I'd believe you. The return on investment for these high school kids is just not there. I'm not happy Michigan flipped him but the money for kids who have never taken a snap in college football is insane
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54818 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:58 am to
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Can they garner nationwide attention, hype, and legitimately put you over the top in huge conference games and playoff games?


Can Underwood?

And if he does will it be at Michigan?
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 7:33 am
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6387 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 8:26 am to
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SMU was involved in cheating to such a large degree that the literal governor of Texas was implicated in it

and that was 40 years ago. this is what college football has always been


Nostalgia for a time that never occurred is very widespread with college sports for TD posters
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60090 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:21 am to
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23529 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

quote:

We're talking about $10.5 million for a high school player that hasn't done anything yet in the collegiate ranks. Something about that doesn't sit right with me.


But you and millions of others are still going to watch.
For awhile... yeah. Mostly out of inertia and habit.

But let's acknowledge, there ARE tipping points for everyone.

I was a huge sports fan growing up. In the 80's, I got Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News, and I think another subscription. I watched and loved ESPN back then. I followed every sport I could; I could tell you the shift lineups of the New York Islanders and Edmonton Oilers in the NHL, could tell you the top 3 players on every NBA team, etc etc.

I hated when the NBA went away from the team concept, and it became all about the star player. I want to be a fan of a team, not a guy... when he goes somewhere else I stay a fan of that team, and not swap loyalties. The whole Lebron thing where he gets premium attention wherever he goes- I don't like it, and it's not about not liking Lebron (I don't), it's about how it's destroying the team fandom concept.
It took awhile, but at this point I haven't watched an NBA game (including playoffs) in maybe 5-6 years. I couldn't care less if the league folded completely.

That sort of thing can happen to any sport, if you push the fans away too far.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6658 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:30 pm to
Wonder if Mich keeps their coach?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150142 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:36 pm to
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I hated when the NBA went away from the team concept, and it became all about the star player. I want to be a fan of a team, not a guy... when he goes somewhere else I stay a fan of that team, and not swap loyalties. The whole Lebron thing where he gets premium attention wherever he goes- I don't like it, and it's not about not liking Lebron (I don't), it's about how it's destroying the team fandom concept.
It took awhile, but at this point I haven't watched an NBA game (including playoffs) in maybe 5-6 years. I couldn't care less if the league folded completely.
this didn't happen to Michael Jordan
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54818 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:38 pm to
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Can they garner nationwide attention, hype, and legitimately put you over the top in huge conference games and playoff games?


There are rookie contracts in every major pro league for a reason. Owners got tired of paying for hype, and it didn’t sit well with the established players who actually produced
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17581 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:42 pm to
The thing is, I'm not averse to college athletes being able to make money. I just don't think it should have it place in recruiting.

High school athletes who haven't even graduated yet, let alone attended a single college class should not be getting NIL deals. Recruitment should not be a bidding war between which school has the richest donors. That is my biggest issue with the whole thing. Let the kid actually sign a LOI, begin attending class, start practicing with the team. Then you approach him with deals.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17581 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:52 pm to
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I hated when the NBA went away from the team concept, and it became all about the star player. I want to be a fan of a team, not a guy


I hate to bust your bubble, but things have always been that way. All those Bulls fans from the 90s are not still Bulls fans. All the millions upon millions of fans were not lining up in front of the TV to watch the great teamwork of Ron Harper, Steve Kerr, Luc Longley, Bill Cartwright, and Horace Grant. No, they were lining up to see Michael Jordan and be amazed by his greatness.

No one is stopping you from being a fan of a team, instead of certain players. You can do just that. But transcendent players will always transcend the game itself. That's just how things are.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:55 pm to
Absolutely disgusting. I hope this kid is a bust.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5688 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:17 pm to
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High school athletes who haven't even graduated yet, let alone attended a single college class should not be getting NIL deals.

Why not?
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Recruitment should not be a bidding war between which school has the richest donors.

Why not? Money hasn’t mattered in the facilities arms race and coaching salaries?
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Let the kid actually sign a LOI, begin attending class, start practicing with the team. Then you approach him with deals.

You can do that, and lose.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23529 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:37 pm to
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I hate to bust your bubble, but things have always been that way. All those Bulls fans from the 90s are not still Bulls fans
Let me clarify a bit...

I stated it was cool with the Jordan phenomenon, but I was already an NBA fan. I cared about Lakers vs Celtics before Jordan came onto the scene. And while it was great that Magic etc was with the Lakers, and Bird etc with the Celtics, if those guys moved on I was still interested with Lakers/Celtics. Same thing with other teams and players.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60090 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

have no idea what Larry Ellison's connection to Michigan is.


Yeah, that's random. I wonder why he's getting involved here
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