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Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:15 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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I want the illusion back.
The under the table Clint Eastwood Colt 45.
And we're none the wiser.
Transparency has ruined some joy.
There was always money involved in recruiting, I don't think there is any doubt or question about that. However, what has changed in the last few seasons is the AMOUNT of money that is now involved in the process that I doubt was there prior to the establishment of NIL. Cam Newton, a generational QB, reportedly got paid around $180,000 to play football at Auburn. By that time he was already a collegiate junior who had led Blinn College to the 2009 NJCAA national championship.
We're talking about $10.5 million for a high school player that hasn't done anything yet in the collegiate ranks. Something about that doesn't sit right with me. None of us minded the fact that some of our favorite players were getting paid a little cash under the table. We liked to chide each other about it but by and large we knew everyone was doing it. But THIS kind of money?! It's absurd.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 4:17 am
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:32 am to RollTide1987
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We're talking about $10.5 million for a high school player that hasn't done anything yet in the collegiate ranks. Something about that doesn't sit right with me.
But you and millions of others are still going to watch.
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But THIS kind of money?! It's absurd.
A lot of things in 2024 are absurd. Some chick has made more money than many of us ever will just by the freak occurrence of being fairly cute and saying “hawk tuah” at the right time and place.
Teen and young adult women (same age as high school and college athletes) are making bank in ways that weren’t possible a generation ago.
Since no one gives a shite about a 20 year old male in swimsuit pictures on IG and doing TikTok dances, let’s allow some young males make big money in one of few ways they can. At least being a major college football player requires real talent and hard work.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:50 am to RollTide1987
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We're talking about $10.5 million for a high school player that hasn't done anything yet in the collegiate ranks. Something about that doesn't sit right with me.
I just want to know what the scale is lol… if he gets 10 mil, then the kid from Evangel will probably get close to that in a few years
We got a sophomore at Chalmette that’s showed a little potential and won a state playoff game last week. I’m sure he’s 1% of Underwood lol but I don’t see him getting 100 grand…The Karr QB is I’m sure 10% or more of what Underwood is but I don’t think he’s getting a mil from anyone.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:36 am to chalmetteowl
You sure they’re 10% of what Underwood is?
Can they garner nationwide attention, hype, and legitimately put you over the top in huge conference games and playoff games?
Can they garner nationwide attention, hype, and legitimately put you over the top in huge conference games and playoff games?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:57 am to ReauxlTide222
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Can they garner nationwide attention, hype, and legitimately put you over the top in huge conference games and playoff games?
You could tell me this was a post about DJ U a few years ago and I'd believe you. The return on investment for these high school kids is just not there. I'm not happy Michigan flipped him but the money for kids who have never taken a snap in college football is insane
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:58 am to ReauxlTide222
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Can they garner nationwide attention, hype, and legitimately put you over the top in huge conference games and playoff games?
Can Underwood?
And if he does will it be at Michigan?
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 7:33 am
Posted on 11/22/24 at 8:26 am to WestCoastAg
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SMU was involved in cheating to such a large degree that the literal governor of Texas was implicated in it
and that was 40 years ago. this is what college football has always been
Nostalgia for a time that never occurred is very widespread with college sports for TD posters
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:21 am to thejuiceisloose
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:21 pm to Globetrotter747
quote:For awhile... yeah. Mostly out of inertia and habit.quote:
We're talking about $10.5 million for a high school player that hasn't done anything yet in the collegiate ranks. Something about that doesn't sit right with me.
But you and millions of others are still going to watch.
But let's acknowledge, there ARE tipping points for everyone.
I was a huge sports fan growing up. In the 80's, I got Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News, and I think another subscription. I watched and loved ESPN back then. I followed every sport I could; I could tell you the shift lineups of the New York Islanders and Edmonton Oilers in the NHL, could tell you the top 3 players on every NBA team, etc etc.
I hated when the NBA went away from the team concept, and it became all about the star player. I want to be a fan of a team, not a guy... when he goes somewhere else I stay a fan of that team, and not swap loyalties. The whole Lebron thing where he gets premium attention wherever he goes- I don't like it, and it's not about not liking Lebron (I don't), it's about how it's destroying the team fandom concept.
It took awhile, but at this point I haven't watched an NBA game (including playoffs) in maybe 5-6 years. I couldn't care less if the league folded completely.
That sort of thing can happen to any sport, if you push the fans away too far.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
Wonder if Mich keeps their coach?
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:36 pm to Scoob
quote:this didn't happen to Michael Jordan
I hated when the NBA went away from the team concept, and it became all about the star player. I want to be a fan of a team, not a guy... when he goes somewhere else I stay a fan of that team, and not swap loyalties. The whole Lebron thing where he gets premium attention wherever he goes- I don't like it, and it's not about not liking Lebron (I don't), it's about how it's destroying the team fandom concept.
It took awhile, but at this point I haven't watched an NBA game (including playoffs) in maybe 5-6 years. I couldn't care less if the league folded completely.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:38 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Can they garner nationwide attention, hype, and legitimately put you over the top in huge conference games and playoff games?
There are rookie contracts in every major pro league for a reason. Owners got tired of paying for hype, and it didn’t sit well with the established players who actually produced
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:42 pm to Globetrotter747
The thing is, I'm not averse to college athletes being able to make money. I just don't think it should have it place in recruiting.
High school athletes who haven't even graduated yet, let alone attended a single college class should not be getting NIL deals. Recruitment should not be a bidding war between which school has the richest donors. That is my biggest issue with the whole thing. Let the kid actually sign a LOI, begin attending class, start practicing with the team. Then you approach him with deals.
High school athletes who haven't even graduated yet, let alone attended a single college class should not be getting NIL deals. Recruitment should not be a bidding war between which school has the richest donors. That is my biggest issue with the whole thing. Let the kid actually sign a LOI, begin attending class, start practicing with the team. Then you approach him with deals.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:52 pm to Scoob
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I hated when the NBA went away from the team concept, and it became all about the star player. I want to be a fan of a team, not a guy
I hate to bust your bubble, but things have always been that way. All those Bulls fans from the 90s are not still Bulls fans. All the millions upon millions of fans were not lining up in front of the TV to watch the great teamwork of Ron Harper, Steve Kerr, Luc Longley, Bill Cartwright, and Horace Grant. No, they were lining up to see Michael Jordan and be amazed by his greatness.
No one is stopping you from being a fan of a team, instead of certain players. You can do just that. But transcendent players will always transcend the game itself. That's just how things are.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:55 pm to Bunk Moreland
Absolutely disgusting. I hope this kid is a bust.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:17 pm to QJenk
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High school athletes who haven't even graduated yet, let alone attended a single college class should not be getting NIL deals.
Why not?
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Recruitment should not be a bidding war between which school has the richest donors.
Why not? Money hasn’t mattered in the facilities arms race and coaching salaries?
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Let the kid actually sign a LOI, begin attending class, start practicing with the team. Then you approach him with deals.
You can do that, and lose.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:37 pm to QJenk
quote:Let me clarify a bit...
I hate to bust your bubble, but things have always been that way. All those Bulls fans from the 90s are not still Bulls fans
I stated it was cool with the Jordan phenomenon, but I was already an NBA fan. I cared about Lakers vs Celtics before Jordan came onto the scene. And while it was great that Magic etc was with the Lakers, and Bird etc with the Celtics, if those guys moved on I was still interested with Lakers/Celtics. Same thing with other teams and players.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:59 pm to Bunk Moreland
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have no idea what Larry Ellison's connection to Michigan is.
Yeah, that's random. I wonder why he's getting involved here
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