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Michael Penix may be the single most impactful player in recent CFB history

Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:27 pm
Cam is probably #2, but he had a top 10 recruiting class in the 4-year window needed to win a national title.


Penix took a dogshit Indiana program to #9 in the nation. They were terrible before he got there and terrible after he left.

At Washington, he is basically breaking 25 yr old metrics for the national title chase.



This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 4:30 pm
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11427 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:31 pm to
Because we watch him play and think he is really good, but not all time great. Current and former teams recruiting rankings from four years ago never crosses our minds.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:36 pm to
He plays in the PAC 10 with a bunch of other weak rosters. He also has a good coach and a team that is built on offense. It isn’t like he was grinding it out with a bunch of dominant teams every week.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31833 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:37 pm to
Didn’t Washington have a game or two with zero offensive TDs?
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:37 pm to
Indiana was 9 in the bullshite covid season. They got to 9 by beating Penn St and Michigan teams that were highly ranked based on nothing since nobody knew what was going on that season.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37260 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:38 pm to
So he has the easiest championship game?
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:38 pm to
Penix has definitely elevated UW, but UW doesn't exactly have a sister's of the poor roster. They just don't have the depth that the top teams have and have been pretty fortunate with injuries heading into the playoffs.

There's probably 8/9 starters on offense that will be the NFL (6 of those in the 1st 2 rounds) and 4/5 on defense. The offense is good enough to beat anyone and the defense is good enough to not completely blow it.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:38 pm to
Or maybe recruiting rankings are very flawed or meaningless in this context...
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26738 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:38 pm to
Penix is not the only common denominator. Kalen Deboer was there at Indiana and Washington. Maybe it's him?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8208 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:40 pm to
I like Penix and think he’s a really good QB and will be a solid pro. But I think the ‘he’s a generational talent’ is a heat of the moment type accolade.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Penix took a dogshit Indiana program to #9 in the nation.


During the Covid year, with opt outs and players missing games after testing positive and the played what 7 games.

He’s good and had a great year but most impactful QB, sorry no. Excluding LSU players Cam Newton won a NC with a mediocre team in the toughest division in CFB that year by a wide margin
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:41 pm to
This place is no better than First Take half of the time.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33937 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:43 pm to
Lamar Jackson took Louisville to #3 in the nation and made them competitive against peak Clemson. The year after he left, Louisville went 2-10 and Bobby Petrino got fired.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
1979 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Cam Newton won a NC with a mediocre team in the toughest division in CFB that year by a wide margin
wrong. he had the best defensive player in the country, a great offensive line, and a very good running back, not to mention a fairly new offensive approach that defenses were still figuring out.
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9591 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

It isn’t like he was grinding it out with a bunch of dominant teams every week.


We still think the SEC had dominant teams this year?

Washington is basically what Tennessee and Ole Miss aspire to be.

My one quibble with the OP's statement is that it takes away from the fact Washington has 3 legitimate NFL receivers in Odunze, McMillan, and Polk.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 4:49 pm
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
1979 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:47 pm to
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At Washington, he is basically breaking 25 yr old metrics for the national title chase.
tell everyone about the metrics against Arizona State. that game alone takes him out of the running for anything vote related.
Posted by BigD43
Member since Jun 2016
819 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:52 pm to
What round will he go in?
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9591 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

tell everyone about the metrics against Arizona State. that game alone takes him out of the running for anything vote related.


Once again - Washington had massive problems with injuries and the flu for that game and Stanford.

This is another case where an SEC team would be praised for its "resilience."
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162212 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Or maybe recruiting rankings are very flawed or meaningless in this context...

Do recruiting rankings include transfers? Because that has changed the game the last few years. Things are definitely not as tightly pegged strictly to high school recruiting rankings.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31833 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Once again - Washington had massive problems with injuries and the flu for that game and Stanford. This is another case where an SEC team would be praised for its "resilience."


but that’s not what the thread is about.

Penix was healthy.

The “most impactful college football player” in recent history should be able to put up at least 1 touchdown vs a 3-9 asu team
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