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Posted on 7/5/12 at 4:20 pm to BIGDAB
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But I do know that most of the genetic difference in humans occurs from individual to individual and not between races
then why are people from africa darker skinned than people from scandinavia?
i mean large groups of people who will breed other people of similar characteristics?
Posted on 7/5/12 at 4:30 pm to Keys Open Doors
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There was not much oxygen on slave ships so they had to use whatever they had to survive.’ Dr Herb Elliott, doctor to the Jamaican Olympic team, added: ‘Only the most aggressive and fiercest slaves ended up in Jamaica.’
he brings up an interesting twist on the subject.... not that blacks are necessarily superior atheletes, but the ones here and descendants of slaves are due to their circumstances.
Bascially, America/Carribbean in the 1700-1800's = Sparta for Slaves.
This post was edited on 7/5/12 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 7/5/12 at 4:38 pm to Sophandros
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It becomes racist when you start injecting OTHER things into it, like when you attempt to assign behavior, intellect, or other psychological things to one's race.
Your dead wrong on this. SO your telling us that its ok to say that genetically some races are better athletes than others? But its racists to say that genetically some races are more intelligent or tend to have certain personality traits. Thats rediculous and your know it. You can't have it both ways, its either one or the other.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 5:23 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Your dead wrong on this. SO your telling us that its ok to say that genetically some races are better athletes than others? But its racists to say that genetically some races are more intelligent or tend to have certain personality traits. Thats rediculous and your know it. You can't have it both ways, its either one or the other.
That's why I admitted what I did. Can't have it both ways.lol. I pretty sure most blacks admit that as a whole whites, asians, indians, etc are smarter than blacks.
Hell we can take it further when it comes to certain breeds of dogs. Some dogs are just smarter and learn more better than others. While other dogs are faster at running, more athletic, etc. I mean they are all basically the same animals but some are smarter, some are more athletic, etc. Lets be honest. The same goes for the human race, we can all inter breed or mix but when push comes to shove some are smarter than others, some are more athletic than others. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 5:35 pm to Keys Open Doors
some brothas musta gotten passed over for those genes bc the ones at the 24 hr fitness near me can't ball for shite!
Posted on 7/5/12 at 7:09 pm to bayou2003
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Can't have it both ways.lol. I pretty sure most blacks admit that as a whole whites, asians, indians, etc are smarter than blacks.
Yeah no.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:02 pm to Moustache
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k then explain to me why Native Americans on reservations are dirt poor, not educated well, etc. I mean they have the same "natural" resources as whites in Oklahoma or whites in Phoenix, Las Vegas, etc. Depends on where you're from. Aren't they considered "Mongoloids" and a lot mixed with "Caucasians".
Great question. But it can't be denied if you're looking at it objectively that jews, Asians, indians, and western european whites are the most intelligent on average. Just as it can't be denied that west african blacks are more athletically gifted in speed and muscle tone.
It's just that one is acceptable to talk about and the other is not.
Read the book Outliers. It explains most of this is the result of cultural and geographic differences. I think you are mistaking technological advancement with intelligence. Some cultures do not emphasize technology. It does not mean we are smarter than they are we have a different cultural focus. They believe we are not intelligent.
I read a quote from an Indian chief that went something like this. "Before the white man the buffalo and fish were plenty. The women cooked and cleaned while the men hunted all day and had sex all night. Only the white man would be stupid enough to think he could improve this"
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:03 pm to mikelowery1911
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I read a quote from an Indian chief that went something like this. "Before the white man the buffalo and fish were plenty. The women cooked and cleaned while the men hunted all day and had sex all night. Only the white man would be stupid enough to think he could improve this"
did you just quote an e-mail chain?
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:03 pm to Moustache
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:05 pm to Moustache
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You're confusing culture traits with genetic traits.
Not at all.
My point was that other countries have had their down times and bounced back. For the most part mongoloids and caucasians have had the "better" societies in world and my belief is that it is due to genetic traits of intellect.
You are confusing cultural traits with genetic traits.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:06 pm to mikelowery1911
ah, but superior culture likely comes as a result of superior intelligence of the group
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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ah, but superior culture likely comes as a result of superior intelligence of the group
Depends from who's point of view you are looking at it. We (Americans) feel that our culture is more advanced and superior to others. And it is, in the ways that we (Americans) measure success or advancement. Other cultures feel they are superior to us Americans because those cultures are more advanced at the things they value.
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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ah, but superior culture likely comes as a result of superior intelligence of the group
Now the native american indian chief who i paraphrased earlier would agree with you. However he would believe his people are more intelligent than ours
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:39 pm to BIGDAB
I don't buy that "mental capacity" or intelligence is tied to genetics
Posted on 7/5/12 at 9:42 pm to BIGDAB
good stuff
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