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re: Michael Johnson says it..."Superior athletic gene"

Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:36 am to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:36 am to
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The unflattering traits have a lot to depend on where you are educated at, what school system you're in, etc
There are mitigating factors for every genetic trait.

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I've seen a big difference from people in the SAME family
As you would see from any genetic trait.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:37 am to
I personally think too much hype is given to race when it comes to sports.

Why is there a need to justify why one group is having more success in a sport. No one cares about the lack of black athletes in hockey, tennis, blah blah, blah.

I think its a lot of insecurity.
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:39 am to
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Intelligence


Go on
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:40 am to
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I personally think too much hype is given to race when it comes to sports.
People always have to ask "why?".

It is in our nature.

When one group dominates an area, we ask why.
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:40 am to
They are all from West Africa.

Most slaves are believed to have come from Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Angola, Mozambique, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Liberia, and Congo.
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:40 am to
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Go on
where are you unclear?
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:41 am to
What Johnson fails to acknowledge and what Jimmy the Greek was fired for was that it has far more to do with selective breeding by slave masters than genetics alone. The strong were bred to the strong for their manual labor ability. It's very unpleasant to be thought of and treated as livestock, but it's a fact.

Otherwise, I'd like to see a list of native West Africans who've won gold medals in sprints. It's not where they came from. It's what happened after they got here.
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:42 am to
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When one group dominates an area, we ask why.


But only when a certain group dominates... Right?
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:42 am to
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Otherwise, I'd like to see a list of native West Africans who've won gold medals in sprints. It's not where they came from. It's what happened after they got here.


Good point!!
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:42 am to
So why doesn't Brazil dominate sprinting/track?
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:42 am to
Why would you breed slaves to run fast?

Seems like that would be asking for trouble. . .
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:43 am to
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But only when a certain group dominates... Right?
If asians destroyed a major athletic event, we'd ask why
Posted by bigpetedatiga
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:44 am to
Well this a thread talking about race and certain traits that come along with it.

Im asking you to spell it out, I don't want to assume or lead.
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:46 am to
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If asians destroyed a major athletic event, we'd ask why


But no one gives a frick about white dominated sports like hockey.
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:46 am to
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I'd like to see a list of native West Africans who've won gold medals in sprints. I

you're not exactly dealing with an area with a ton of advanced training
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:47 am to
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you're not exactly dealing with an area with a ton of advanced training
like I said.

All traits have mitigating factors.
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:48 am to
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But no one gives a frick about white dominated sports like hockey.
Where does it rank, in popularity?
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:48 am to
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What Johnson fails to acknowledge and what Jimmy the Greek was fired for was that it has far more to do with selective breeding by slave masters than genetics alone. The strong were bred to the strong for their manual labor ability. It's very unpleasant to be thought of and treated as livestock, but it's a fact.

Otherwise, I'd like to see a list of native West Africans who've won gold medals in sprints. It's not where they came from. It's what happened after they got here.


Exactly. But not just selective breeding, but the survival of the fittest of the guys who came to the US and Caribbean.

West African countries are not wealthy at all so they aren't going to dominate in a ton of sports. But SFP, Kenya and Ethiopia are even poorer and they do great in the 1500, 3000, 5000 meters, and Marathon races.

While Ghana and Ivory Coast have very good soccer teams, I am not seeing many world class sprinters coming out of West African countries. Or a really disproportionate number of world-class athletes. There are a few guys from Angola and Mozambique running for Portugal, but I think you are completely right about why American, Caribbean, and Brazilian athletes are at the top of their sports.
This post was edited on 7/5/12 at 11:49 am
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:48 am to
Cause only white people grow up playing hockey. Do you think if hockey was big in the south there would only be a handful of blacks in the NHL still?
Posted by BIGDAB
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Posted on 7/5/12 at 11:48 am to
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So why doesn't Brazil dominate sprinting/track?


Soccer is their thing.

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