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re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:14 pm to MusclesofBrussels
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:14 pm to MusclesofBrussels
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Guy must be really rustled by this thread
Brady is a great quarterback, one of the best. Just not the best of all time.
As we've seen when backups come in (Garafolo and Brissett I believe), the Pats still win. He's great, but the beneficiary of the brilliant mind and system (and cheating tendencies) of likely the greatest coach in NFL history.
I do like to joke though about when Brady will catch a break in life. Michigan educated, stunningly handsome, model wife, rich beyond anyone's dreams, cute kids, flush with Super Bowl rings...poor guy.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 2:16 pm
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:17 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:If this is the case, then wouldn't be literally impossible to rank players with any remote confidence?
There is no such thing as individual work in football, can we be clear about that? You can always spin these things to fit whatever you want. Difference in weapons, difference in offensive line, defense changing game flows, etc...
There is no such thing as judging a quarterback independently because he doesn't perform independently
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:18 pm to shel311
Those are 2 agreeable points to me
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:19 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:Then you're dead to me. I need someone to disagree with me so i can yell at them.
Those are 2 agreeable points to me
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:20 pm to shel311
Passer Rating rankings
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:20 pm to shel311
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:20 pm to shel311
quote:
Then you're dead to me. I need someone to disagree with me so i can yell at them.
Seriously. Does this guy even internet?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:22 pm to lsupride87
And I think Rodgers playoff passer rating is lower than his regular season passer rating (though I may have missed if these number include reg season).
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:41 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:Isn't Brady's significantly lower in the playoffs than regular season?
And I think Rodgers playoff passer rating is lower than his regular season passer rating
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:42 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:It is all games
And I think Rodgers playoff passer rating is lower than his regular season passer rating (though I may have missed if these number include reg season).
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:44 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Brady goes from 97.2 to 89.0
Isn't Brady's significantly lower in the playoffs than regular season?
Manning goes from 96.5 to 87.4
Brees goes from 96.3 to 100.7
Rodgers goes from 104.2 to 99.4
But that one poster wanted to downplay defense and just randomly say it's because Brady plays well in big games. Welp, looking at Brees and Rodgers, there goes that theory.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:03 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:11 pm to shel311
Those are about how I remembered them.
You have no idea how much I want Bill to stick around with the Pats after Brady retires. I'll legitimately be upset.
I like Brady a lot. As a player and person. And the Pats are one of my favorite teams to watch. I don't root against them AT ALL.
But I honestly don't think Brady is the best QB ever and don't think he's all that close to as good as people think he is. And I don't think he's as responsible for their success as people think he is.
Before I get yelled at, I think he's VERY VERY VERY good. Like easily top 6 good.
I want nothing more in life to watch a decade of Pats football post Brady(WITH BILL). I could not be more interested/curious.
You have no idea how much I want Bill to stick around with the Pats after Brady retires. I'll legitimately be upset.
I like Brady a lot. As a player and person. And the Pats are one of my favorite teams to watch. I don't root against them AT ALL.
But I honestly don't think Brady is the best QB ever and don't think he's all that close to as good as people think he is. And I don't think he's as responsible for their success as people think he is.
Before I get yelled at, I think he's VERY VERY VERY good. Like easily top 6 good.
I want nothing more in life to watch a decade of Pats football post Brady(WITH BILL). I could not be more interested/curious.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:11 pm to Knight of Old
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:51 pm to shel311
quote:
If this is the case, then wouldn't be literally impossible to rank players with any remote confidence?
It pretty much is at the top.
Who is better? Julio or AJ? There are hundreds of those arguments and you can go all fricking day with them. Sure it's fun and I enjoy it (I have over 30000 posts on this fricking board), but yeah often times it is literally impossible.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:53 pm to lsupride87
Why didn't you use total defense?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:55 pm to Korin
quote:Let us know what what you come up with, post the numbers.
Why didn't you use total defense?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:55 pm to Korin
quote:Because, what your defense gives up in points matters. What they give up in yards, not so much.
Why didn't you use total defense?
Total defense is shite
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:58 pm to Korin
quote:points are more meaningful than yards, IMO.
Why didn't you use total defense?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:39 pm to lsupride87
Useless stat. Brady goat, move on
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