re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense

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Leaving out those facts like Pride isn't going to go find em.

If anything was proven in this thread, it's that Pride is going to look up stuff, all of the stuff.

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It is humorous. He literally has posted at least 10 separate things that are not opinions, they are just factually incorrect

One is not like the others.

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New England had all three timeouts, and started with the ball on the 40 and Brady advanced them 37 yards.

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actually i think that's the end of Super Bowl XXXVIII vs Carolina. John Kasay kicked it out of bounds (as a side note, one of the more annoying Bardy/Patriot narratives is that if not for 2 miracle catches by the Giants he'd have 7, which ignores stuff like this and of course the tuck rule)

Anyhoo SB XXVI vs the Rams, they got the ball at the 17 with 1:30 to go. They drove 50 yards or so. But obviously the time and yardage were beside the point, but i know you and shel understand that.

I'd like to give him the benefit if the doubt that he's just digging in his heels to defend his boy, but his comment about the Saint's-49ers game along with many other comments shows he really doesn't get it and is too wrapped up the standard cliches to get it. shel said it well above, thinking Brady is the "GOAT" is fine and perfectly reasonable without the lazy and stupid "rings" element.

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Yeah...you might want to go on YouTube and watch that final drive again. The Patriots had no time outs, 1:21 on the clock (I originally said 1:08) and ball on their own 16 yard line.

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I mistook it for the Carolina game...

So point still stands, what is the difference between Brady vs Carolina and Kelly vs New York?

Kelly drove 61 yards, and Brady 37....

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still completely missed the point

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Because your point is retarded.

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Holy shite! Are you people retarded? Where have I ever said it's all about rings?! He's Top 5 in just about every major QB statistic out there! When you have QBs who are so close together when it comes to stats, championships become a valid tie breaker.

It's one thing if he's got one Super Bowl ring...it's quite another when he's got five. That's how great players are judged whether you like it or not. You play the game to win championships, not to impress the stat sheet. Brady does both. I don't give a shite if you think that's a cliched argument. It's a valid one because it's used by just about every player, coach, and analyst of the game.

Just because you think it's cliched doesn't make it any less true.

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Another factor is Brees has played his entire career either in San Diego or in a dome (and both smaller markets) compared to Brady (and Rodgers for that matter) playing their entire careers up north and outside.

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Are you people retarded? Where have I ever said it's all about rings?

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uh,

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It's one thing if he's got one Super Bowl ring...it's quite another when he's got five

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still completely missed the point


Because your point is retarded.

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in other words, i won't answer because it completely destroys my cherished belief.

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GOAT gets his final revenge on Roger Goodell The question no longer remains is he the greatest QB of all-time There can be only one Lord of the Rings I realize Peyton Manning is from Louisiana So I know why a lot of you guys have a vested interest in downplaying Brady's accomplishments If tGOAT's team wins tomorrow night.... Will there be any doubt about his legacy? How is Brady not the best QB to ever play the game?

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Now it all makes sense