re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense

Another good read

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Bottom 3 lowest average on passes = dink n dunk compared to qbs who throw the ball further downfield. it's as simple as that. All this grasping for straws is just wasting your time.

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You mean like Tom Brady

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Brees is the king of dink and dunk (or king dink for short as a few of my podnas call him). He is living proof that NFL defenses will let a qb dink and dunk his way all up n down the field. Especially when that d is holding a lead. Few Qbs out there have passes
that travel less yards in the air than drew.

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Dink and dunk all the way up and down the field apparently means giving up more deep scores than any other QBs

Brilliant logic


Here's a good chart from 2013 showing passes from 0-10 yards. Tom Brady with 324 attempts, Brees with 283:



So 51.5% of Brady's passes were "short" passes, while 43.5% of Drew's were short.

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Dude did you really post one year of data when B already posted a decades worth?? Please for your own sake give it up.

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I've repeatedly posted several years of data.

Now, if you actually take what I presented and compare it to your chart, maybe that lil brain of yours can see how stupid it is.

In 2013, Brees threw a much lower % of shorter passes than Brady, while also having a higher attempt % in the following categories:

11-20
21-30
31-40
40+

The only area where Brady had a higher % of passes attempted was between 1-10.


2014 season

1-10: 58.3% of Brady's throws were from 0-10. 51.2% of Drew's.

11-20: 20.4% for Brady; 22.7% for Drew

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Boom's trolling at this point. He's had his nutsack bashed in too often in this thread to be serious

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No doubt, but enjoy it

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The passer rating is among the most useless and misleading of all professional sports stats.

As of 6 years ago, according to the passer rating, 10 of the 13 best passers of all-time were active players in 2011. Romo, in 2011, had the fourth best passer rating in the history of the game. Carson Palmer was listed at #16 all-time. Think about that for a second.

According to the passer rating, Shaun Hill was a better passer at that time than Hall of Famers Roger Staubach, Johnny Unitas, John Elway, Dan Fouts, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Namath and Sammy Baugh, among others.

Daunte Culpepper is better than Dan Marino, Jim Kelly and Warren Moon according to this passer rating stat you trumpet.

Passer rating makes also makes no distinction between eras. So all passes thrown before 1978, when defenses could bump receivers until the ball was thrown, are treated identically to all passes thrown after 1978, when defenses could only bump receivers within five yards of the line of scrimmage. The 34 highest single-season completion percentages in NFL history all occurred after that 1978 rule change. And yet passes thrown pre-1978 and post-1978 are treated exactly the same by the passer rating.

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That is why you compare them to their counterparts in their eras:

Reddit discussed this today

And while there are still some issues with volume of games played compared to the league average rating in each year, it is pretty good. It also could use standard deviation

Agreed

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Tom Brady is tGoat

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no shite

Even the Rocky Top Insider guys have Brady ahead of Peyton now. Time to give it up.

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Even the Rocky Top Insider guys have Brady ahead of Peyton now. Time to give it up.

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he's what happens when two retards have sex.

At it again with the personal attacks.

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Yeah the Pats are a much better team than the saints or the colts.

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Now they are. But from 2009-2013, the Saints were among the most elite franchises in the NFL (they also had a NFC Championship Game appearance in 2006).

From 2000-2010, when Manning was there, the Colts were 125-51. During that same time frame, the Patriots were 126-50. What set the Patriots apart from the Colts in the last decade was their success in the playoffs.