re: Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers: A chart based on scoring defense

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Oh the irony.

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Well played I'd ignore that too if I were you.

So go ahead, reply...and continue to ignore where I proved you wrong and you walked away with your tail tucked between your legs. You'll ignore it cause you know it's true.

So go ahead, reply to this post but ignore it again.

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lsupride87

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Remember when he tried to say the NFL thought 1 was more important because of the order, then I showed him they ordered field goals as "more important" according to his logic than offensive scoring, then he said my screenshot was from a different page despite it being from the exact page he linked and I clicked on?

Ahhhh, that was good times!!!

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Maybe Peyton would have more rings and more SB MVP awards if he didn't throw twice as many ints as tds in the SB (not to mention the 3 lost fumbles).

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shel doesn't think Manning is the best. I don't even know if he thinks he is better than Brady

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shel doesn't think Manning is the best. I don't even know if he thinks he is better than Brady

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Rodgers
Brady
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Brady doesn't have a sub 90 passer rating in the SB.

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Edited to fix it, I said "player" but meant "playoff" passer rating.

Brady's playoff passer rating is 89. Brees is over 100. Explain to me how playing the position clearly not as good as Brees helped win more titles?

No one has tried to even attempt to explain that yet.

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Nah I'll let you nit pick it. Me and everyone else will laugh at you grasping at straws.

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I've already disproved your bullshite.

Here, I'll give you the first hint:

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Air yards are the average distance each pass travels beyond the line of scrimmage. 

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Now let's see if you can put it together.

Why would measuring the distance each passed travelled be a poor way to measure air yards per attempt or even the depth per attempted pass? Can you think of why it may favor, inaccurately, a strong armed, inaccurate QB?

Try using that intelligence you think you have

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Sure you do, because you use 5 titles as evidence that Brady is better.

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Combined with his stats? Yeah, I do.

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You literally can't make a coherent argument for Brady's sub 90 Passer rating compared to Rodgers or Brees to say Brady has played the position of QB better in the playoffs than those 2.

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The passer rating is among the most useless and misleading of all professional sports stats.

As of 6 years ago, according to the passer rating, 10 of the 13 best passers of all-time were active players in 2011. Romo, in 2011, had the fourth best passer rating in the history of the game. Carson Palmer was listed at #16 all-time. Think about that for a second.

According to the passer rating, Shaun Hill was a better passer at that time than Hall of Famers Roger Staubach, Johnny Unitas, John Elway, Dan Fouts, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Namath and Sammy Baugh, among others.

Daunte Culpepper is better than Dan Marino, Jim Kelly and Warren Moon according to this passer rating stat you trumpet.

Passer rating makes also makes no distinction between eras. So all passes thrown before 1978, when defenses could bump receivers until the ball was thrown, are treated identically to all passes thrown after 1978, when defenses could only bump receivers within five yards of the line of scrimmage. The 34 highest single-season completion percentages in NFL history all occurred after that 1978 rule change. And yet passes thrown pre-1978 and post-1978 are treated exactly the same by the passer rating.

In the Jets-Steelers AFC Championship Game several years ago, Mark Sanchez had a QB passer rating of 102 while Big Ben had a rating of 35. Despite this, the Steelers went on to win the game. The key play? A Mark Sanchez fumble that was returned by the Steelers for a touchdown. Sacks and fumbles are not accounted for in the overall passer rating.

But hey, if you really want to believe Mark Bulger (84.4 career passer rating, playing in domes) and Jim Kelly (84.4 career passer rating, playing outdoors in Buffalo) were equally good quarterbacks, you certainly have that right to that opinion. This is America, and in our great nation, you have the right to be wrong.

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There's the nitpick ladies and gents!

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Context is important, right? Or is that only when you're being oblivious. Missing a target by 15 yards shouldn't result in an attempt of +15 yards, get it?

Here's another good PFF article showing intermediate passing....

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And one of my favorites on Drew's incredible deep passing

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While it’s always nice to have the big play and rack-up the yards, it’s that much nicer when it results in points. While the usual suspects are on the list again, at the top is Drew Brees with an astounding 10 more deep touchdown passes than any other quarterback in this period. While there is no one single statistic (outside of our PFF pass rating) to show who the best deep passer is, the sizable lead that Brees enjys here gives a good idea of how much ahead of his competition he really is. Brady throws a lower portion of deep balls than the average quarterback, but ended up high on this list as well. Another nice feat by a great quarterback is Peyton Manning making this list despite missing all of last year. One name that might surprise you is Mark Sanchez who has been consistently putting up six or seven deep touchdown passes every year.

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So teams were just content, as you said, letting Brees dink and dunk while giving up 10 more deep TDs than any other QB.

Derp

Did you even read what I posted?

Try sounding out the syllables this time.

That is extremely irrelevant to what I posted. Look at the intermediate passing percentages and the deep ball stats as a whole....

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How accurate he is on deep passes doesn't mean squat in whether he is king dink or not. 

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Now read the next sentence you posted on that OP

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King dink is by definition a qb that throws the "shortest passes on average"

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If you can't comprehend or understand the statistics, sure.