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re: Louisiana High School - Select vs. Non-Select?
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:15 pm to PP7 for heisman
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:15 pm to PP7 for heisman
5A and 4A schools aren't the problem. 3A and below are where the problems arise. It's really a problem when 1A, 2A and 3A schools in metropolitan areas get mixed in with rural teams.
The 5A schools sending Curtis and Evangel down to 2A is what cased the split. There is no way rural teams in sparsely populated parishes can compete with the likes of Curtis, Evangel, U High, Lafayette Christian, Calvary Baptist, Southern Lab, and Ouachita Christian in 3A, 2A and 1A.
Honest to God Parochial schools aren't the problem. It's the "Made to play sports" Christian Schools, and Lab schools, that are the problem. Most states make teams that take kids from larger geographical areas play up a level or two. Curtis and Evangel have been doing that. They aren't really the problem anymore.
The 5A schools sending Curtis and Evangel down to 2A is what cased the split. There is no way rural teams in sparsely populated parishes can compete with the likes of Curtis, Evangel, U High, Lafayette Christian, Calvary Baptist, Southern Lab, and Ouachita Christian in 3A, 2A and 1A.
Honest to God Parochial schools aren't the problem. It's the "Made to play sports" Christian Schools, and Lab schools, that are the problem. Most states make teams that take kids from larger geographical areas play up a level or two. Curtis and Evangel have been doing that. They aren't really the problem anymore.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 3:20 pm
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:33 pm to Marciano1
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It's stupid that Bunkie is in a district with other public schools like Marksville, Jena, etc but come playoff time, they have to go play badass private schools because they're 'magnet'.
how? they can take people out of zone and more than the minimal % is from out of zone
why is it stupid? because they consider themself non select?
i mean the most of the catholic schools play mainly against public non select in district...why is bunkie different? they do not have to abide by zoning rules, that is the definition of select.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 4:22 pm to Marciano1
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It's stupid that Bunkie is in a district with other public schools like Marksville, Jena, etc but come playoff time, they have to go play badass private schools because they're 'magnet'.
It's not stupid. It's right. You can't get the best kids out of your attendance zone and then complain about having to play competition that can do the same.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:43 pm to SaintNation
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John Curtis is the reason for the split
Curtis and Evangel, plus other schools' insecurity.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:46 pm to chinese58
Lafayette Christian was also playing up for a time. Unfortunately, LHSAA will not let you play up in one or two sports; it's all or nothing. If they allowed it, LCA would still be playing up in football and probably boys' and girls' basketball.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:37 pm to Tdubs7
It's a failed experiment that needs to end. The best era of HS football in LA was from around 1990-2004. There were many great playoff and championship games between publics and privates.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:44 pm to alterego55
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had to do split so catholic high could finally win a state championship in fb
This is true. Catholic could never get past the big north LA teams no matter how many future D-I players they had.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:55 pm to CenlaTiger4
quote:Bruh about 97% of the team is from the traditional Bunkie zone. It's not like they're raiding talent from the other two high schools.
You can't get the best kids out of your attendance zone and then complain about having to play competition that can do the same.
My point is Bunkie is far more similar to the schools in their district as opposed to the private schools they face in the postseason.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:58 pm to Tdubs7
I don’t like it, but you have parishes with open enrollment like Rapids where Alexandria Senior High can “recruit” or draw from its entire parish, where West Monroe or Ruston has a certain area where kids are “zoned” to attend.
Doesn’t make it fair or right, ASH beat Ruston this year, but that isn’t always the case.
Doesn’t make it fair or right, ASH beat Ruston this year, but that isn’t always the case.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:31 am to Marciano1
It doesn't matter if the majority of the team is from the attendance zone. You still have kids on the roster from outside the original attendance zone. You have an advantage the non-select schools in the parish have. Just because they aren't a traditional private school in the sense of Catholic-NI or LCA, they still have the advantage of taking kids outside their zone.
They may not be "raiding talent" from other schools because let's be honest, there is not a lot of high-level talent in Avoyelles, but they do tend to draw the kids in the parish that have talent from outside their zone. Say what you want, but those kids would make a difference at the schools they're originally zoned for.
They may not be "raiding talent" from other schools because let's be honest, there is not a lot of high-level talent in Avoyelles, but they do tend to draw the kids in the parish that have talent from outside their zone. Say what you want, but those kids would make a difference at the schools they're originally zoned for.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:15 am to SaintNation
quote:Some other schools equally share the reason. But you are 100% wrong on blaming them for the split. the SPLIT was caused by the 2003 vote to make schools play "in class" that is what caused the split a decade of ECA and JC winning all the state football titles in whatever class they were in is what cause the split and that was pushed by 7 4A and 5A principals despite their ADs and coaches warning what this would do.
John Curtis is the reason for the split and anyone who says anything different is lying
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:16 am to Tdubs7
quote:25 years ago la had A through AAAAA
Moved away from Louisiana 25 years ago when we had 1-A thru AAAA.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:19 am to chinese58
quote:4A and 5A schools are most certainly part of the problem the 7 that pushed for "play in class" are from Monroe, NOLA and Shreve, had they not pushed play in class to get rid of JC and ECA - we wouldn't be where we are now, that and poor leadership in 2003/4.
5A and 4A schools aren't the problem. 3A and below are where the problems arise.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:19 am to choupiquesushi
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25 years ago la had A through AAAAA
For people who were in high school 25 years ago, when you say 25 years ago you actually mean 40 years ago.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:19 pm to Tdubs7
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Moved away from Louisiana 25 years ago when we had 1-A thru AAAA.
5A was introduced in fall of 1991.
The answer is you don't unless they happened to play each other in the regular season.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:24 pm to Cash
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The selects would win 9 out of 10 times over the non-selects.
Not necessarily in 5A. Public schools were still dominant at the top level before the split. If JC would have moved up to 5A like Evangel then the split doesn't happen in my opinion.
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