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re: Lincoln Riley, Saban say fans who want to expand CFB Playoff field will never be satisfied
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:39 am to lsupride87
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:39 am to lsupride87
quote:
If they changed the playoffs to the way people in here are describing, you would go from about 50% people bitching every year, to maybe 5%.
Exactly.
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:44 am to Rand AlThor
quote:
Seal off the power 5 into it's own division, force each of them to have 12 teams, and make them all play an 8 game conference schedule and a 4 game rotating OOC schedule (so you play all 60 P5 teams every 12 years).
dont think thats even feasible, but it would be better.
are the B!G and SEC gonna kick out two teams? etc.
my ideal format is just to have ~60 independent teams playing each other. top 4 advances. split revenue amongst everyone, like a professional league
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:53 am to RB10
quote:They said the same in going from 2 to 4 teams too.
Exactly.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:53 am to Bench McElroy
quote:
Lincoln Riley, Saban say fans who want to expand CFB Playoff field will never be satisfied
I want a system with set criteria for selection so that every team in the country starts the season knowing exactly what they need to do to make the playoff.
I don't think there's anyway to actually have a set criteria with only 4 teams, but if there is so be it.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:53 am to lsupride87
quote:Wrong? No, not wrong. And I don't think it's a simple semantics thing. Wrong and not a majority opinion aren't the same thing at all.
So in terms of this thread, you somewhat see why Saban/Riley are wrong?
quote:2 things on that.
If they changed the playoffs to the way people in here are describing, you would go from about 50% people bitching every year, to maybe 5%.
1. I think your numbers are grossly exagerrated
2. When we went from 2 teams to 4, the idea was to limit the bitching, and the bitching has arguably gotten worse. So if we changed it to the way people are describing there is no guarantee it goes down at all, much less from the exaggerated 50 to 5% numbers you threw out.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:58 am to Bench McElroy
While I at least I totally agreed with them, 8 can actually make sense. You get all of your conf champs in and some at larges like UCF this year.
I really don't like that teams can have an opportunity to play themselves out with a conf championship game, while other teams can sit at home without that worry. Didn't realize this would bug me at first but all it does is let teams get in on reputation, which is what a playoff is supposed to cure.
I really don't like that teams can have an opportunity to play themselves out with a conf championship game, while other teams can sit at home without that worry. Didn't realize this would bug me at first but all it does is let teams get in on reputation, which is what a playoff is supposed to cure.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:58 am to shel311
quote:I went back and reread their quotes as I had totally forgot what was even in the OP.
So in terms of this thread, you somewhat see why Saban/Riley are wrong?
I'd say not only are they not wrong, but they're spot on.
If we did your P5 conf winners plus 3 at-large bids, then there is a 100% certainty that we would still be arguing over who the 3 at large bids go to, so I'd say they aren't wrong at all, actually.
I'm also very confident that if we go to 8, in no time, we will be having the "should we go to 16" debate.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:02 pm to shel311
quote:
They said the same in going from 2 to 4 teams too
The day it was announced there were questions about the validitity when there are 5 major conferences competing for 4 spots, not to mention the fact that this system automatically excludes half of the FBS, which is the biggest problem of all. Going from 2 to 4 was a step in the right direction, but it's not where most want to be.
You don't say you're driving from New Orleans to Baton Rouge but stop in LaPlace and say "close enough".
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:06 pm to shel311
quote:I just disagree
If we did your P5 conf winners plus 3 at-large bids, then there is a 100% certainty that we would still be arguing over who the 3 at large bids go to, so I'd say they aren't wrong at all, actually.
Would some bitch? Of course, but the number would be very small, and the heavy majority would say "you could have just won your conference....."
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:10 pm to lsupride87
quote:Like you said, we'll agree to disagree. The heated debate around #3 vs #4 and #5 in the at-large wouldn't be that much, if any, than the debate between #4 vs #5 and #6 right now IMO.
Would some bitch? Of course, but the number would be very small,
I'm basically certain of 1 thing though, the debate wouldn't be "very small"
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:14 pm to shel311
It would though, it just would
When there is a defined way to get in, and you fail, the bitching is a lot less than having no defined way at all
Is there bitching about the last few spots in the NCAA tourney? Yes. Is it anything like CFP bitching. No
When there is a defined way to get in, and you fail, the bitching is a lot less than having no defined way at all
Is there bitching about the last few spots in the NCAA tourney? Yes. Is it anything like CFP bitching. No
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:22 pm to lsupride87
quote:There would be just as much(relative to the amount of fans/passion of each sport) if 8 teams were allowed into the tourney.
Is there bitching about the last few spots in the NCAA tourney? Yes. Is it anything like CFP bitching. No
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:26 pm to lsupride87
quote:I disagree. Very few could make a case for 4th best, quite a few would be in line for 7-8 spots.
If they changed the playoffs to the way people in here are describing, you would go from about 50% people bitching every year, to maybe 5%.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 12:30 pm to castorinho
is anyone even bitching this year?
i dont even think ohio state fans care
which makes the point of the OP 100% true, people are going to whine about something just to whine about "they will never be satisfied"
i dont even think ohio state fans care
which makes the point of the OP 100% true, people are going to whine about something just to whine about "they will never be satisfied"
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:19 pm to shel311
I have always hated the way CF determines their champions. When they moved it up to 4, I also hated it then. So no, for me personally, if they expanded the playoffs a bit more I wouldn't complain anymore. Because the way I see it the system would finally be fair.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:20 pm to Bench McElroy
Nah. Make it 8 teams and I'm good.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 2:04 pm to Bench McElroy
How about all conference champions get autobid to make it a legit NCAA tournament?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 2:20 pm to VerlanderBEAST
I don't have a huge problem with that. But, let's take this year. Would you put in 11-1 Bama or 10-3 Aubie for at-large?
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:41 pm to Bench McElroy
I don’t care if it 2, 4, 6 or 8 I just want the committee to be thrown out. Go back to to BCS type of formula. I want human opinion / eye ball test totally eliminated.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:47 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Let them all in
Conference champs get a bye, KU,Illanoy,etc have to play in!
LOL
Conference champs get a bye, KU,Illanoy,etc have to play in!
LOL
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