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Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:10 am to WestCoastAg
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the only person whose legacy as a laker comes to close to kobe is magic lol
Just off the top of my head.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:10 am to lsufanva
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Only stat that matters to a player of Kobes ilk
It's fitting the most overrated player ever would hide behind a team stat
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:15 am to SlowFlowPro
Millennial Lakers fans hold Kobe in higher regard than anyone else, and his death only solidified their sentimentality toward him.
But yeah, they should go look at Shaq’s stats during those three straight finals they won. Or the fact that Kareem won five titles and three MVPs as a Laker.
Kobe was only marginally better than peak TMac or AI.
But yeah, they should go look at Shaq’s stats during those three straight finals they won. Or the fact that Kareem won five titles and three MVPs as a Laker.
Kobe was only marginally better than peak TMac or AI.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's fitting the most overrated player ever would hide behind a team stat
People get so fixated on individual stats. There is an entire end of the basketball court where the only quantifiable metrics are blocks and steals. But obviously, playing defense is more than just blocks and steals.
Here’s some individual accolades for you. Only 4 players in NBA history have been named 1st Team All Defense 9 (NINE) times:
Kevin Garnett
Gary Payton
Michael Jordan
Kobe Bryant
Here’s some more individual stuff. Only 3 players in NBA history have been named 1st team All NBA 11+ times:
LeBron James
Karl Malone
Kobe Bryant
Only one guy on both those lists above.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:18 am to PhiTiger1764
Who votes on those awards?
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:21 am to diddlydawg7
Well, when you hold the all-time scoring record by a large margin, what do you think will happen.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:22 am to FightinTigersDammit
Sportswriters
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:28 am to mattz1122
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Kobe was only marginally better than peak TMac or AI.
TMac and AI couldn’t finish their careers as one-team guys
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:45 am to WestCoastAg
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the only person whose legacy as a laker comes to close to kobe is magic lol
lulz, Jerry West says hello. 15 years as a player and then built six championship teams as an executive for the Lakers.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:49 am to Bench McElroy
you know what, you clearly have more insight on the opinions held by the greater laker fanbase than i do
This post was edited on 10/23/24 at 11:51 am
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:00 pm to BreakawayZou83
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LeBron has a higher three point percentage (34.8% to 32.9%) for his career on more three point shots than Kobe (6,930 to 5,546).
I know that actual stats hurt the More Sports Board's absurd hatred of Lebron James. But you can easily check the career heat mapfor Lebron James for yourselves.
LeBron does average an absurd 67.3% on shots around the basket, that's over 10% higher than the League average. So apparently LeBron is pretty damn good at making those "hard to miss" shots.
These dudes have Bron Derangement Syndrome for sure.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:00 pm to PhiTiger1764
Do you think sportswriters are capable of over or underrating players?
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:12 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Do you think sportswriters are capable of over or underrating players?
Ahhh there it is.. the ole “I don’t like the facts presented here, so let me discredit the opinions of people who make a living covering basketball in favor of the stat book” argument.
I can’t wait to see MSB threads in 10 years talking about how Steph Curry wasn’t the best shooter ever.. “hell there’s 10+ guys who have a higher 3 point % in their career.. His brother Seth was the better shooter..”
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:14 pm to PhiTiger1764
Well, we know guys who lost MVPs and other awards because sportswriters didn't like them.
I just asked the question.
I just asked the question.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:14 pm to PhiTiger1764
quote:Shaq Kareem and magic are absolutely better lakers
Lol. Only on message boards
I’m not counting Lebron because he came too late in his career
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:19 pm to diddlydawg7
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There is not a more overrated player in nba history than Kobe Bryant
You’re not wrong. He’s probably a lower top-20 (i.e., 15th-20th) player of all-time. Which, yes, means he’s a legend/all-time great.
But his premature death (RIP) and people’s hate of Lebron (who’s 2nd all-time, NOT better than Jordan) enhances Kobe’s reputation. Kobe’s widely considered top-10 all-time (incorrect) and I’ve even seen some rank him 2nd all-time, which is absolute lunacy.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:32 pm to diddlydawg7
Jeannine will give him his statue now
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:39 pm to DalenSA
quote:According to BBRef, LeBron has 2,194, which would account for about 10.8% of this points. In addition, about 1/3 of his points have come from jump shots 10 or more feet from the basket. If you add FTs, that is about 54% of his points taken from shots 10 or more feet from the basket.
Like 70% of LeBron points are dunks. Hard to miss those. Kobe was an actual shooter lol
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