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re: Kobe Bryant dies in helicopter crash
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:04 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:04 am to Lester Earl
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Very easy to say as a man, don’t you think
As a man who was the victim of a sexual assault, no. Some of those reporters are vindictive, anti-men, people who would like to see men tried and convicted on the sole basis of a women's testimony. This doesn't apply to the majority of them but the shoe fits perfectly for some.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 10:04 am
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:05 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I don't know if it's been discussed... but the sports information director at Orange County College... and thus the person tasked with reporting on the coach's death in the crash from the athletic department's perspective... was the coach's brother
this was in the ESPN article about the crash
this was in the ESPN article about the crash
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One of Altobelli's brothers, Tony, has spent the last 14 years as the sports information director at OCC. Tony spent Sunday grieving while also fulfilling his job requirements, which included contacting about a dozen reporters with information about his brother and writing the story about his passing for the program's website.
"I think the fact that I've been going non-stop today, I haven't had a chance to let it process and sink in yet," Tony Altobelli said in a phone conversation. "I think the minute I do, I'll probably cry my eyes out and wet the bed. But in the meantime, I'm doing the best I can to tell everyone about my brother. Not just how good of a coach he was, because he was one of the best at this level, or quite frankly any level. But just what kind of an unbelievable human being he was. He cared about his team, he cared about his players, more than life itself. He cared about his family. He's what everyone wants to be when they grow up. He was my older brother. He set the bar for me, and he set it pretty flippin' high."
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:07 am to rt3
Awful. He has coached in Cape Cod a bunch which is the premier summer league for top pro prospects in college baseball. I saw Jeff McNeil on the Mets said he basically revived his baseball career in college
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:18 am to shel311
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The immediate moments after someone is dead is just not the time.
The fact that she doubled & tripled down on justifying her Tweet just made the entire situation even worse, causing her even more backlash. You would believe a "journalist" would have been more rational especially after having a moment to realize she made a mistake & started receiving negative feedback yet she stubbornly dug her heels in even deeper. Someone that lacks such logic doesn't deserve to the right to the cover the news but that's just a product of today's society. Too many thrive for attention at all costs while integrity gets tossed out of the window
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:21 am to SDVTiger
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:27 am to tylercsbn9
Pretty tough watch here, Kobe talking about why he started using helicopters. Short answer was just so he could spend more time with his kids.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:28 am to SDVTiger
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An hour max with no traffic which that early on a Sunday there wouldn't have been
It’s LA, I’m guessing there’s always traffic
Posted on 1/27/20 at 10:31 am to rt3
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but the sports information director at Orange County College... and thus the person tasked with reporting on the coach's death in the crash from the athletic department's perspective... was the coach's brother
Oh geez....
Going to be hard to do his job for awhile. At least if he had a different job he could bury himself in his work at times.
He will think of his brother all of the time.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:03 am to GCTiger11
Didn't see it posted but all 9 people have been identified.
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6:11 AM PT -- 1/27 -- All 9 people on the helicopter have been identified ...
Kobe Bryant (41), Gianna Bryant (13), John Altobelli (56), Keri Altobelli, Alyssa Altobelli, Sarah Chester, Payton Chester (13), Christina Mauser and the pilot, Ara Zobayan.
Mauser was an assistant coach of the Mamba girls’ basketball team.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:13 am to HogFanfromHTown
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Please elaborate on "strike out sometimes".
The only thing I can figure is he is trying to nicely say sometimes they make shite up
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:15 am to HogFanfromHTown
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The woman eventually refused to testify and dropped the case.
She also lied to investigators multiple times, wore panties to do the DNA testing that were stained with someone else's semen & pubic hair, bragged to people around her about being with Kobe prior to her civil suit & had a history of mental illness. Anyone who believes the case was cut & dry or that the evidence heavily supported guilt towards Kobe is grossly misinformed, biased or a troll.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:25 am to LNCHBOX
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When trying to be an edgy feminist goes wrong.
Bro, she just thought it was a well reported story, she didn’t know 10,000 people(probably more by now) would freak out and come after her..
Yeah right, that dumb c*** knew exactly what she was doing and wanted to make a name for herself. There’s always one in every tragedy. In two years, there will be a fluff piece on Deadspin about how emotionally damaging this time was for her.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:33 am to Salamander_Wilson
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Do you honestly get off on being an a-hole?
Yes, he gets off on being the contrarian to any topic.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:36 am to lsufball19
Trying to get this thread back on the rails, here's a good story on their flight and a theory of what happened.
LINK
LINK
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As the helicopter approached Calabasas, it was less than 500 feet above the ground. Perhaps wanting to put a safety margin between himself and the increasingly hilly terrain, the pilot began a brisk climb, ascending nearly 1,000 feet in 36 seconds. This put it very close to the bottom of the cloud layer reported at that time at nearby Van Nuys Airport.
We may never know for sure if the helicopter had indeed entered the clouds. But if it did, then it had crossed a kind of invisible line. It was now engaged in what air-crash investigators call “continued VFR flight into instrument meteorological conditions.” Basically, a pilot dependent on seeing the ground to stay oriented can no longer see the ground.
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According to data transmitted by its transponder, at 15 seconds past 9:45 a.m. the pilot banked to the left, then dove. Why? We can never get into his head to know for sure. But based on my own experience flying light aircraft, the sudden intensification of danger creates of sense of mental overload in which it’s nearly impossible to rationally weigh one’s various options.
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Eighteen seconds after beginning the turn, the helicopter had lost 800 feet and returned to an easterly heading. But what the pilot had failed to reckon with is that the ground rose not only straight ahead, but on the sides as well. The S-76B had impacted a hillside above the Los Virgenes Municipal Water District facility at a speed of 170 mph.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:40 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Everyone our age he was pretty much the guy. Him and Iverson to a lesser extent. We were too young to really enjoy MJ and too old to idolize Lebron since he’s a similar age as us.
I really didn’t like Kobe as a younger fan but recognized how good he was. As I got into my later teens I started to respect how competitive he was and really liked him in his later years/retirement.
It’s just so surreal.
I was a giant fan, posters on the wall. Was my TD profile pic for years (idk what happened to that, actually). Which I know is silly.
My favorite memory was the 2010 finals. I was a junior in college and interning in Gainesville over the summer. I watched that entire finals on a tiny little tv in a tiny little bedroom. I screamed and jumped cheered for him and the Lakers by myself.
Watching Kobe always motivated me to go shoot or find a pickup game. In HS, watching him play motivated me to practice my arse off. He was just a very motivating player and made me feel like I needed to work harder.
Sad day for sports.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:42 am to ike221
quote:The prosecutor dropped the case because the victim didn't want to move forward. There was evidence of another sexual partner possibly within 15 hours of the alleged assault and the victim reportedly didn't handle cross examination well in a mock trial leading up to Kobe's trial date.
That's why the over zealous prosecutor dropped the case?
Kobe settled the civil claim and issued an apology that seemed strange for someone falsely accused.
In the end, none of us can be sure either way.
This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:46 am to Chucktown_Badger
This may be a stupid or naive question, but if the pilot couldn’t see anything, why in the world was he traveling 180mph.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:48 am to Chucktown_Badger
Good read.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:51 am to cas4t
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Was my TD profile pic for years
I 'member. Randomly was thinking of your old avi in light of the news.
Sorry about all this. Been rough on my dad, too. Lot to process.
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:51 am to 632627
I'm not a pilot or have any knowledge, but I'm just going to ask a question if anyone in here does.
So in theory if you lose you bearings why wouldn't you stop the fast paced forward direction and make a vertical ascent until you are out of harms way with the terrain. Seems that would have been the best avenue to ensure your safety? Just curious
So in theory if you lose you bearings why wouldn't you stop the fast paced forward direction and make a vertical ascent until you are out of harms way with the terrain. Seems that would have been the best avenue to ensure your safety? Just curious
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