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re: Kliff Kingsbury has been a head coach for 10 years. He has had just 3 winning seasons

Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:24 am to
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:24 am to
What's going to be wild is when he gets fired by the Cardinals and ends up getting a better college job than Texas Tech.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10948 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:03 am to
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6 years as a college head coach
0 years with a winning conference record

What jobs? He failed in his lone HC gig at a program with historically mediocre expectations
USC hired him with this exact resumé and he's been to the NFL playoffs since then.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17814 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:19 am to
Holy cow, I just looked at his college record. I thought he did better at Texas Tech.

How tf did he get an NFL job, nepotism? Blackmail?

Through 6 seasons, he had a record of 35-40, and he jumped straight to an NFL HC position, not even a coordinator position.

Nobody can convince me that with his collegiate record, he was the most qualified man for the job when he got hired.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178325 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:20 am to
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And this is someone who had Patrick Mahomes as a QB for 3 years in college

Soon to be fired Les drug nuts on him
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22933 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:20 am to
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How tf did he get an NFL job, nepotism? Blackmail?


Looks
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
39399 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:24 am to
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USC hired him with this exact resumé and he's been to the NFL playoffs since then.



As offensive coordinator, not head coach
Posted by Magnus
San Diego
Member since Sep 2019
2122 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:24 am to
his nfl offenses have been dreadful, even with some dynamic players like Murray and Hopkins, Ertz, etc
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11801 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:32 am to
Always had the impression he’s too much a players coach and enjoys the spoils more than the work.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7771 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:33 am to
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Nobody can convince me that with his collegiate record, he was the most qualified man for the job when he got hired.


Keim and Bidwill looked at what SF had done with Shanahan, and LAR had done with McVay. They were looking for a dynamic offensive mind who could serve as HC/OC. KK had that resume of offensive success, and there was thinking that he could be successful when paired with a competent DC.

To be honest, Kliff turned around a really bad Cardinals team when Steve Wilks was fired, and made them very good, very fast. Looks like it was all smoke and mirrors, but if he were to be fired this season, he's leaving a better foundation than he inherited.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6960 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:39 am to
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his nfl offenses have been dreadful, even with some dynamic players like Murray and Hopkins, Ertz, etc
QB position has come up short, TBH.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:27 am to
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How tf did he get an NFL job, nepotism? Blackmail?

Mahomes effect. Cardinals had the #1 pick and it was going to be Kyler. They were sold that Kliff was a "QB whisperer" and, IIRC, McVay and/or Shanny spoke well of him. It was all about protecting the investment in Kyler.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:29 am to
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his nfl offenses have been dreadful,

Honestly I think his time in the NFL has removed all the luster on his offensive mind (at least on the NFL level).

He doesn't use motion well and doesn't move his WRs around. Just basic stuff. He's clearly stubborn as shite about it, too.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
23201 posts
Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:54 am to
And he’s got Murray locked in with that huge contract
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17328 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 4:54 am to
Does anyone know what took place in Mexico with Sean Kugler, OL Coach?
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12809 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 5:04 am to
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What's going to be wild is when he gets fired by the Cardinals and ends up getting a better college job than Texas Tech.


Gene Stallings did it. Coincidentally he also coached the Arizona Cardinals.

Had a pretty mediocre tenure at A&M and got fired, wound up on Tom Landry’s staff, became the head coach of the Cardinals, got fired in ‘89 and immediately got the Alabama job.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80885 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:20 am to
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To be honest, Kliff turned around a really bad Cardinals team when Steve Wilks was fired, and made them very good, very fast.

Kliff didn't do shite. The difference was having Kyler instead of Josh Rosen and Keim fleecing the Texans for Hopkins.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37672 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:49 am to
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Gene Stallings did it. Coincidentally he also coached the Arizona Cardinals.

Had a pretty mediocre tenure at A&M and got fired, wound up on Tom Landry’s staff, became the head coach of the Cardinals, got fired in ‘89 and immediately got the Alabama job.



Stallings was a great coach at a terrible Cardinals franchise. That generation of Bidwells was even more god awful than this one. And the end of the 80s was even more chaotic because of the dwindling fan support in the face of poor ownership eventually resulted in the team moving to Arizona.

Bad franchises are about bad ownership and the resulting bad management
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
17671 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:03 am to
So the coach got fired for groping a woman. Must have been pretty egregious and with eye witnesses bc he was fired next morning.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
26791 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:35 am to
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7900 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:52 am to
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What's going to be wild is when he gets fired by the Cardinals and ends up getting a better college job than Texas Tech.


If he gets fired by the Cardinals, he is going straight to Arizona State.
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