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Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:42 pm to sms151t
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Why would Notre Dame join a conference and lose all the huge money making rivalry games? It’s amazing people are ostriches
It's not a deal breaker they could still be independent an be accepted in the playoffs like they are now it's not a big deal.
Every state in America have 5 or more state championships and everyone of them are a big deal to those teams that play in those games. Why is it so hard to believe that college would be different. We have already have DIII playoffs.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:43 pm to RLDSC FAN
He wanted to cancel the fricking season he can GFH.
Proud to be 1st downvote
Proud to be 1st downvote
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:It wasn’t important those seasons for a team as good as Alabama.
I also found it incredibly ironic
that an Alabama fan would say its important to win the conference given those 2 recent seasons and (on an LSU board of all places) when a fair number of your fans said how unimportant it was during those seasons.
It is important to win the conference championship, though.
Period.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:45 pm to VADawg
What was it 2 years ago Kennesaw made a run that nobody saw coming. Peay who absolutely thought was getting in got left out. Indiana St one year got in for no reason yet beat the OVC co champ EKU
It’s crazy
Then you get teams like Southern Utah who never ever have been any good they have a magical season won the Sky outright and got to host a playoff game. Let’s say that is Wake and they start year so far as an afterthought they no way get in with 1 loss but would be deserving.
It’s crazy
Then you get teams like Southern Utah who never ever have been any good they have a magical season won the Sky outright and got to host a playoff game. Let’s say that is Wake and they start year so far as an afterthought they no way get in with 1 loss but would be deserving.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:46 pm to chalmetteowl
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Since when has college athletics not been a business?
It's always been a business, but what it has become dwarfs what it used to be, and that's not even debatable. Position coaches are making more than an average paid head coach was 20 years ago. Only a few games from each conference were on TV each weekend, now every single game is on TV. College football didn't make many people rich 20 years ago. It makes A LOT of people rich now.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:46 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I just think it’s ridiculous to say one of the greatest Alabama teams ever not quite measuring up in the regular season to one the THE greatest CFB ever in 2011 is a reason to think conference championships don’t matter moving forward.
They still matter. And Alabama being the 2nd best team in 2011 won’t change that.
well i disagree, I've also given you 3 other teams that made either the BCS CG or playoff without winning a conference so its not just Alabama, the toothpaste is not going back in the tube, making the playoff and winning the Natty are all that matters to most, that 2011 was historically great but didn't win the SEC is not really relevant to that point.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:46 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:49 pm to H-Town Tiger
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it is the sports culture we've created. You either win it all or you suck that is the mentality
all because of Jordan v. Lebron and Brady v. Manning
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:49 pm to SoDakHawk
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As a fan of FCS and D2 football I am convinced an FBS playoff expansion would be a good thing.
My team is South Dakota in the MVFC. The goal is to make the playoffs each year. In years where USD is in the playoff hunt it is exciting. Every game matters. You follow other games with playoff implications as well. The conference title autobid matters. So many games mean so much more deep into the season. And while NDSU dominates FCS titles lately it is still fun. First round byes, home field advantage. Every game matters.
If FBS expanded playoffs then winning the conference would matter again. Division races matter. Games in the Big 12, PAC, every conference matter.
Now unless you are Bama or Clemson who both get that one oopsie loss, if you lose once you're done. I mean, you still might have a chance to win the conference or get a good bowl but ESPN don't care and they don't talk about you.
FBS could expand the playoffs to at least 8 and ALL games would have more meaning.
The big difference is, very few of the players playing FCS and DII ball will ever play football again after college, so they truly do care and every game does matter to them. That's their payoff, not putting themselves into position for an NFL draft and making sure they don't get hurt prior. If pro football didn't exist and wasn't a career aspiration, we wouldn't need to change anything for FBS football players to care about each and every game.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:51 pm to lsufball19
That’s such a stupid reason. Is Safety and academics not as important for FCS compared to FBS Your point is only true for a handful of players not the majority. Don’t try to make it every FBS player is going to play pro ball.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:53 pm to sms151t
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FBS needs to be 24 imo follow the same bylaws they enforce on every sport. Fun fact in last 5 years the top 4 seeds all have not made the Semis. Youngstown had to play 4 games before getting to Finals 4 years ago winning 3 road games. (They were 3rd in the Valley that year)
FBS teams would need to agree to reduce the length of the regular season and get rid of conference title games for this to work. No way future NFL players are going to agree to play 12 regular season games, a conference title game, and 4-5 playoff games unpaid. And colleges aren't going to agree to sacrifice up to 8 home games they get with a 12 game schedule. And conferences aren't going to agree to eliminate conference title games, at least the SEC won't. Money lost and money risked makes a lot of ideas like this not possible. It works in other divisions because the money doesn't even begin to compare.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:54 pm to lsufball19
Again nobody is forcing them to play and again not every FBS player is a pro prospect.
It’s amazing how elitist some become when discussing playoffs. I’m not disagreeing with you completely. But your mindset that they won’t play to win a championship is wrong.
It’s amazing how elitist some become when discussing playoffs. I’m not disagreeing with you completely. But your mindset that they won’t play to win a championship is wrong.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:55 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:see: lebron james
those days are over, not to sound like a broken record, but it is the sports culture. We judge everything on rings and that's it.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:56 pm to sms151t
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That’s such a stupid reason.
It's not a stupid reason. It's reality. It's the same reason high school kids play hard every game regardless of how much they suck. they're playing because they love the sport and aren't worried about whether not an injury will maybe cost them millions of dollars. You may think it's dumb, but it's true.
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Don’t try to make it every FBS player is going to play pro ball.
The elite FBS players that will play pro bowl opting out is what this entire damn thread is about
But, yes, more than 50% of the 85 scholarship players on the rosters of the top 10 or so programs in college football will be playing in the NFL in some capacity, whether that be a short stint on a practice squad or a multi-year starter in the NFL. Every single player that started for LSU in the national title game last year will end up being on a 53 man roster. Yes, that matters. A lot.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:56 pm to sms151t
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Let’s say that is Wake and they start year so far as an afterthought they no way get in with 1 loss but would be deserving.
This is the #1 reason a 4 team playoff is broken. It's inherently biased towards big name schools.
Flip the records with Purdue and Ohio State. Purdue could be 4-0 with the exact same schedule as current Ohio State, won in the exact same ways, and yet there is no way in hell they would be ranked #4 in the CFB playoff poll. They'd be so far down the rankings we wouldn't even be talking about them possibly slipping in.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:57 pm to ReauxlTide222
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It wasn’t important those seasons for a team as good as Alabama.
so its not important for your team but not for others, got it
You know there were other great teams that didn't get 2nd chances to win right? 1971 Oklahoma was pretty good too for example.
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It is important to win the conference championship, though.
Period.
Ask most fans if they'd rather win the conference or the playoff and get back to me. Winning your conference (especially the SEC) will give you a much better chance of making the playoff but it's not a goal in and of itself anymore, it's just not. I wish it were, i've argued and continue to maintain that the playoff should be conference winners (or independents) only.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:59 pm to lsufball19
They’re opting out due to not playing meaningful games my man. It’s amazing you can’t see it. But Fournett opted out of Fiesta bowl, it wasn’t a meaningful game in terms of championships. But hey spin it how you want
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:01 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:You have.
I've also given you 3 other teams that made either the BCS CG or playoff without winning a conference so its not just Alabama
But I was 11 years old for one of them and 13 years old for the 2nd of the 3.
I just don’t think they hold any relevance to what has happened with OSU and Alabama in the playoff era.
quote:I don’t agree with this.
making the playoff and winning the Natty are all that matters to most
I also don’t think any teams expect to lose their division and still be able to make that coveted playoff. Not even Alabama.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:03 pm to lsufball19
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lsufball19
If this thread is active tomorrow I’ll continue discussion
I’ve got to enter grades for my Future Felons of America’and Future Criminals of Arkansas
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 10:04 pm
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